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Re: MERLIN valves & sensors
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lugnet.robotics
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Sun, 5 Sep 2004 23:48:19 GMT
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In lugnet.robotics, Ross Crawford wrote:
> In lugnet.robotics, Steve Baker <sjbaker1@airmail.net> wrote:
> > Joe Strout wrote:
> > > Did you catch that these are *proportional* air valves? A LEGO mechanical air
> > > switch is not proportional, is it? (Genuine question -- I haven't gotten my
> > > hands on one yet, so I could be mistaken about that.)
> >
> > LEGO switches certainly aren't proportional - but I question the value of
> > proportional pneumatic controls. The pressure either side of the valve
> > will equalize very rapidly even if the control is opened only a small
> > amount. Proportional valves can control the air speed - but not the
> > pressure.
> >
> > So you could maybe control the rate at which a Lego cylinder would expand
> > or compress - but not the force it could apply or how far it would extend.
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> But if you have a feedback system, the speed at which it activates is very
> important to avoid overshoot. Unfortunately the LEGO pneumatic switches do not
> make it easy to create feedback circuits, as they require a lot of force and
> have a relatively large "dead" area.
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> (Please, oh please, LEGO, make a sliding pneumatic valve!!!)
The correct is:
(Please, oh please, LEGO, make small pneumatic solenoid valves!!!)
;-)
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> As to proportionality, they do open slowly, but over a fairly small percentage
> of the travel. So no, they aren't proportional.
>
> ROSCO
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