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Re: GNU C wizards?
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Date: 
Mon, 4 Jan 1999 19:32:15 GMT
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John A. Tamplin <JAT@TRAVELLER.saynotospamCOM>
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On Mon, 4 Jan 1999, dave madden wrote:

I'd tried doing this, but the generated code (-O6) only infrequently
reduces to "bset #n,...", and never to "bset #n,@xx:8".  (It also
seemed to allocate/construct stack space for the Bit sometimes...)  If
you need to pass Bit references around, of course, then you have to do
something like BitVector<T>, but for simple linear code, keeping the
port backreference and and mask around just make the compiler work
harder.

GCC has in general done a very good job removing unnecessary code from
templates.  You can certainly optimize the generated code further, but you
are getting the facilities of a high-level language in exchange for the
(usually) small losses in performance.

Personally, I generally go for higher levels of abstraction and expect
that the lost performance won't be objectionable.

Anyway, I kept at it a little longer last night and got the templates
working in the "Port6.Bit3 = true; if (Port6.Bit5) do_something( );"
mode.  The DDR access is clumsier because, as you note, the register
is write-only, so you have to keep a shadow copy around.  I'll take
another shot at expressing things as arrays and post the best version
I can come up with.

Since you are creating a separate object for the ports, you should put
the shadows there.

=>I don't think you need to use asm - the compiler will use those
=>instructions.  Just do it in C++:
=>  value|=(1<<bit) to set
=>  value&= ~(1<<bit) to clear

I saw "bset" and "bclr" generated for these types of statements in
some places, but my test case (Port6[3] = true;) resulted in

mov.b @0xffbb,r2l ; (this is from memory...)
or.b #x08,r2l
mov.b r2l,@0xffbb

Wastes space, and worse, throws off the timing.  (Although the LCD
driver doesn't seem to be *that* sensitive to those delay loops
getting shortened.)

Hmm, you are correct.  It does seem to reliably generate btst instructions
for things like if(*p & 4) ..., but the set/clear aren't always.  That should
be something that can be fixed in the compiler, possibly creating a peephole
optimization.

BTW, won't the "-r" option to gnu-ld work for your load-on-the-fly
problem?  The info page says:

The problem is that it doesn't do any relocation -- it just basically
combines all the .o files into a single file.  What I want is for it to
relocate everything that is PC-relative and only leave the absolute
relocations.  The kernel will have to do at least those anyway, so I
guess it isn't too much more work to do all of them there.

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  H8 bit operations (was Re: GNU C wizards?)
 
(...) After looking into it further, if the compiler has the address in a register (or will use it more than once so it will load it in a register), it does use the bset/bclr instructions. However, there is this in h8300.md: ;; Bitfield operations (...) (26 years ago, 4-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)

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  Re: GNU C wizards?
 
On Sun, 3 Jan 1999, I wrote: =>> =>> Are there any GNU C/C++ wizards out there? I'm trying to write an =>> asm() statement to describe the H8's bclr/bset instructions. I have a =>> wicked sweet tooth for C++ syntactic sugar, and I'd like to be able (...) (26 years ago, 4-Jan-99, to lugnet.robotics)

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