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RE: Fwd: FW: Social Security
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Mon, 14 Jan 2002 02:56:14 GMT
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Sean Watson <seanwatson@STOPSPAMec.rr.com>
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Interesting and tough words, however, this is the same mentality that
England had in the days when people like Robin Hood had to be the
"social programs". If you eliminate government, after having a democracy
for so long, it would be a disaster. I think the indians had the best
government, but the problem is, you cannot go from a state of government
to anarchy. The country would tear itself apart. Not to mention, look
what happened to the indians!!! The whole idea of the government is all
of us to act as one group. If something has happened and that no longer
works, maybe we should try to fix it, instead of just throwing stones at
it.
Sean Watson
SeanWatson@ec.rr.com
http://www.campuscomputerexperts.com/seanwatson/
"Your focus determines your reality..." - Qui-Gon Jinn
-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Humes [mailto:nomad@celabs.com]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 12:46 PM
To: Benjamin Medinets; lego-robotics@crynwr.com; Chris
Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: Social Security
Here is the quickest, easiest simplest and most fair solution. KILL the
whole program (Social Security and the Politician one)! Stop being
stupid and relying on the government to solve all your problems.
Hopefully, you're intelligent enough to actually save a portion of your
paycheck towards your future retirement (I know, a truly unAmerican
thing to do). Against popular beleif Government is not more effective
at getting things done. We should all be alloud to take care of
ourselves for a change.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Benjamin Medinets" <bmedinets@excite.com>
To: <lego-robotics@crynwr.com>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: Social Security
> In lugnet.robotics, "kristin fullenwider"
> <rudies2piecesuit@hotmail.com> • writes:
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> > > TCarlson@dickinson-wright.com, SValdes@se.verizonwireless.com
> > > CC: mvertigo75@cs.com
> > > Subject: FW: Social Security
> > > Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:46:57 -0500
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Carrie Griffith [mailto:carriegriffith@gmmediaworks.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 12:14 PM
> > > To: 'Bill Griffith (E-mail 2)'; 'Jeni Snelling (E-mail) (E-mail)';
> > > 'Josephina Collica (E-mail)'; 'Julie Collard (E-mail)'; 'Kathy
> > > Griffith (E-mail)'; 'Krissy Spry (E-mail)'; 'Matthew. Siewert
> > > (E-mail)'; 'Melanie Frohriep (E-mail)'; 'Melanie Hazelton (E-mail)';
> > > 'Michelle Abdallah (E-mail)'; 'Michelle Montalto (E-mail)';
> > > 'Pfront24@home. com (E-mail)'; 'Theresa Raulerson (E-mail)';
> > > 'Tiffanie Norris (Kern) (E-mail)'
> > > Subject: FW: Social Security
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Eric B. Boughner [mailto:boughne8@msu.edu]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:58 AM
> > > To: william.f.sheets@gm.com; Stepulla, Joseph AECO; shelby
> > > feldpausch; Ronei Foumia; Plawecki, Brent (D.);
> > > paula.disalvo@gm.com; Paul VanDam; Minerva Gebara;
> > > mike.unger@gm.com; Michael J Ruchti; meiling1@pilot.msu.edu;
> > > mark.e.donaldson@gm.com; Luke A Jones; Lisa Murphy;
> > > kathryn.baumgartner@gm.com; jvogel@cecom.com;
> > > joseph.jernigan@gm.com; Joe Pikur; Jim Lung (E-mail); Faith; Evan
> > > Vander Eyk; ed.m.flanagan@gm.com; cvanhartesvelt@walbridge.com;
> > > chris.hornberger@gm.com; Chad Hepner; Brian LeRoy; Boughner, Jackie;
> > > benjamin.pettit@gm.com; Aunt Lou; dan.hall@gm.com
> > > Subject: Fw: Social Security
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Subject: Social Security
> > >
> > >
> > > This is pretty interesting, and I think we should do something about
> > > it....
> > >
> > > Eric.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Social Security
> > >
> > > > Perhaps we were asking the wrong questions in this past election
> > > > year.
> > > >
> > > > Our Senators/Congressmen do not pay into Social Security, and,
> > > > therefore they do not collect from it. Social Security benefits
> > > > were • not
> > > > suitable for them.
> > > >
> > > > They felt they should have a special plan. Many years ago they
> > > > voted in their benefit plan. In more recent years, no congress
> > > > person has felt the need to change it. After all, it is a great
> > > > plan.
> > > >
> > > > For all practical purposes, their plan works like this:
> > > >
> > > > When they retire no matter how long they have been in office, they
> > > > continue to draw their same pay until they die, except it may be
> > > > increased from time to time by the cost-of-living adjustments. For
> > > > example, former Senator Bill Bradley (New Jersey) and his wife may
> > > > be expected to draw $7,900,000.00 over an average life span, with
> > > > Mrs. Bradley drawing $275,000.00 during the last year of her life.
> > > > Their cost for this excellent plan is "0," nada, zilch. This
> > > > little perk they voted in for themselves is free to them.
> > > >
> > > > You and I pick up the tab for this plan. Our tax dollars at work!
> > > > Social Security, which you and I pay into every payday for our own
> > > > retirement, with an equal amount paid in by our employer, we can
> > > > expect to receive an average of $1,000 per month. We would have to
> > > > collect our benefits for 68 years and 1 month to equal the
> > > > Bradley's benefits.
> > > >
> > > > Imagine for a moment that you could structure a retirement plan so
> > > > desirable, a retirement plan that worked so well, that Railroad
> > > > Employees, Postal Workers, and others who were not in the plan
> > > > would clamor to be included. This is how good Social Security
> > > > could be, if only one small change was made.
> > > >
> > > > That change would be to jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan out
> > > > from under the Senators & Congressmen. Put them into the Social
> > > > Security plan with the rest of us. Watch how fast they fix it!!!
> > > >
> > > > If enough people receive this message maybe a seed will be
> > > > planted, and maybe good changes will evolve.
> > > >
> > > > Don't forget, our girl, Hillary Rodham Clinton, now comes under
> > > > this Congressional Retirement Plan. Talking about the Clinton's,
> > > > it's common knowledge that, in order for her to establish NYC
> > > > residency, they purchased a million + house in upscale Chappaqua,
> > > > NY. Makes sense.
> > > >
> > > > Now, they are entitled to Secret Service protection for life.
> > > > Still makes sense. Here is where it becomes interesting.
> > > >
> > > > A residency had to be built in order to house the Secret Service
> > > > agents. The Clinton's now charge the Secret Service rent for the
> > > > use of said residence and that rent is just about equal to their
> > > > mortgage payment, meaning that we, the tax payers, are paying the
> > > > Clinton's mortgage, and it's all perfectly legal.
> > > >
> > > > How many people can YOU send this to?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> I fail to see how this relates to Lugnet.Robots.
> A more appropriate spot would be Lugnet.offtopic.geek. (perhaps)
>
> Thanks...
>
> Benjamin Medinets
>
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| (...) *PLEASE* Stop sending this crap to the Lego Robotics mailing list. We simply are not interested in your political views. Go find another mailing list. ---...--- Steve Baker ---...--- Mail : <sjbaker1@airmail.net> WorkMail: <sjbaker@link.com> (...) (23 years ago, 14-Jan-02, to lugnet.robotics)
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