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Subject: 
Re: New Poll
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lugnet.publish
Date: 
Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:34:55 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.publish, Kevin Loch writes:
So now I'm going to have to take the time to write additional protections
to discourage most intentional ballot stuffing.  That's work I diddn't think
I had to do for the "friendliest place on the Internet".

Bah.

OTOH, what I tried out was probably not something that most people would
figure to give a try, so it may not end up being a real issue.  If you ask
people not to vote more than once (like explicitly state that, and make
that a condition of submitting a vote), that would eliminate any question
about whether it's OK or not.  But ballot stuffing is a huge problem with
polls on the Internet...going by a cookie may have been what caused the
strange skews talked about here:

  http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/09/18/1649233&mode=thread

One approach to weed out ballot stuffing attempts which I've used before with
CLSotW is to hash on a triplet of values, for example string-paste together
(1) IP address, (2) UserAgent, and (3) int(epochtime/3600) and throw out
duplicates.  That theoretically doesn't stop script kiddles who fiddle with
the UA string or IP rotation, but may still improve general interaction
significantly.

--Todd

I did something like that. It checks for frequent occurrances of IP and UA, and
separately checks frequent occurances of IP regardless of UA.  It also logs
each successful vote so abuse patterns can be manually detected and the
parameters tuned.

KL



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(...) OTOH, what I tried out was probably not something that most people would figure to give a try, so it may not end up being a real issue. If you ask people not to vote more than once (like explicitly state that, and make that a condition of (...) (24 years ago, 19-Sep-00, to lugnet.publish)

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