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Re: (MOC) 36-gun Frigate RTS LEGOMALEE
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Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:26:54 GMT
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In lugnet.pirates, Kurt Baty wrote:
   In lugnet.pirates, Stephen Rowe wrote:
   In lugnet.pirates, Kurt Baty wrote:
   36-gun Frigate RTS LEGOMALEE

   so what do you think?

kurt

hello! this is a wonderful ship you have here. you did a very nice job.

Thanks Stephen, I have studied your ships! I also value your praise!!

   7 center sections is huge!

but it doesn’t look it though, does it?

Not at all.

Several people have commented that they thought my ships, the Misérable and the HMLS Intractable were the same size, until they saw them in person (or the comparison pics). The Mis is 6 centre sections, the Intracty 3.

Also, at 7 sections she doesn’t look at all canoe-like. Hmmm....

-snip-

  
   the only things i can find to point out have been mentioned already: that the stern is a bit high, and the placement of the masts. while i agree with Mr Dulin, that the main mast could be moved back just a bit, i actually think that the foremast is too far back.

I think I agree, I can’t move the main mast back (less than 6 studs). If you look at the proto-type Leda-frigate http://www.hms-trincomalee.co.uk/

and click on the “VIRTUAL” TRINCOMALEE”, then click on the QUARTER DECK you can see that the fore mast is at the braking curve of the bow. The center of the fore mast is a little more that two “gun on center widths” back from the inside of the bow rail (ignoring the bow sprit). For my model, guns are at 6 studs on center, but my fore mast’s center is 19 studs back from the bow. Also the center of the main mast is on this drawing of the proto-type is 54% of the way down the length of ship’s hull at the quarter decks railing height. On my model it’s 51% of the way down the length of ship’s hull at the quarter decks railing height.

You can see this better in this picture:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1060049

   it looks like you could move it forward of the cannons directly in front of it. if you could move it forwards, i dont think youll have to move the main back (thereby allowing you to keep the extra guns :-)) in general, the mainmast is half as far from the mizzen as it is from the fore, but you can get away without spacing the main and fore quite so far apart.

I could bring the fore mast forward 6 studs! It would not be easy, it would be right where the second wedge sloped brick is (from the bow). check that first pic again.

well, what do you think Mr Dulin?

Way back when I built the Mis I started of with even mast spacing. After I’d built to the rails and temporarily placed the mast bases, I realised my mistake and ended up rebuilding most of the hull. I think it was well worth it - but then I had nowhere near a finished vessel at the time.

I think moving the mast forward would be worth doing.

If you’re doing some major modifications, there’s something else you could consider too: another hull section between the main and foremasts...

All this talk of shipbuilding.... It’s been too long since I’ve last built anything. But I have the parts, my current (non maritime) project is nearing completion, I have a week’s leave from work, and now I have the inspiration too.


Adieu

Richie Dulin




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(...) I entirely agree. Kurt has done a few things that I would have discounted out of hand if I was building a ship myself (the hull length, the size of the tops, the double width hull extension from below, the 2x1 slopes from the top rather than (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.pirates, FTX)

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(...) Thanks Stephen, I have studied your ships! I also value your praise!! (...) but it doesn't look it though, does it? (...) thanks, I saw (studied) the ships out there to see how people were doing it. It was your ship HM 20 gun Frigate Minotaur (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.pirates, FTX)

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