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Re: (MOC) 36-gun Frigate RTS LEGOMALEE
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Thu, 20 Jan 2005 04:43:46 GMT
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In lugnet.pirates, Stephen Rowe wrote:
   In lugnet.pirates, Kurt Baty wrote:
   36-gun Frigate RTS LEGOMALEE

   so what do you think?

kurt

hello! this is a wonderful ship you have here. you did a very nice job.

Thanks Stephen, I have studied your ships! I also value your praise!!

   7 center sections is huge!

but it doesn’t look it though, does it?

   i must echo everyone else in saying you did a great job widening the hull,

thanks, I saw (studied) the ships out there to see how people were doing it. It was your ship HM 20 gun Frigate Minotaur

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=92908

(If other readers wonder)

and your efforts to have sheer, that set me off on the quest for large wide hull with sheer.

   i have thought about trying to widen a hull, but did not come up with using the (forgive my horrible Lego terminology) angled plates to keep the “flow” going and break up the vertical staggering of the bricks. (does this make sense? not sure if i conveyed it correctly)

wing(s), peeron calls them Wing (something)

http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/psearch?query=wing&limit=parts&anyword=0

and I understand what you are saying, also raising the inverted slope bricks one plate at a time gives the hull real “fairness”.

see: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1060047

note: that on top of the brown wings the first (going up) black part is a wedge sloped

http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/psearch?query=wedge+sloped&limit=none&anyword=0

which also adds to the “fairness” of the hull.


  
wow, 36 guns, i dont even have that many. will make her the terror of the seas ;-).

“be afraid, be very afraid”

  
the sails you made are excellent, very nice.

thanks but they are just paper, I may get some cloth ...

  
the only things i can find to point out have been mentioned already: that the stern is a bit high, and the placement of the masts. while i agree with Mr Dulin, that the main mast could be moved back just a bit, i actually think that the foremast is too far back.

I think I agree, I can’t move the main mast back (less than 6 studs). If you look at the proto-type Leda-frigate http://www.hms-trincomalee.co.uk/

and click on the “VIRTUAL” TRINCOMALEE”, then click on the QUARTER DECK you can see that the fore mast is at the braking curve of the bow. The center of the fore mast is a little more that two “gun on center widths” back from the inside of the bow rail (ignoring the bow sprit). For my model, guns are at 6 studs on center, but my fore mast’s center is 19 studs back from the bow. Also the center of the main mast is on this drawing of the proto-type is 54% of the way down the length of ship’s hull at the quarter decks railing height. On my model it’s 51% of the way down the length of ship’s hull at the quarter decks railing height.

You can see this better in this picture:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1060049

   it looks like you could move it forward of the cannons directly in front of it. if you could move it forwards, i dont think youll have to move the main back (thereby allowing you to keep the extra guns :-)) in general, the mainmast is half as far from the mizzen as it is from the fore, but you can get away without spacing the main and fore quite so far apart.

I could bring the fore mast forward 6 studs! It would not be easy, it would be right where the second wedge sloped brick is (from the bow). check that first pic again.

well, what do you think Mr Dulin?


  
anyway, you have build a wonderful ship, and i look forward to seeing the other ship you are finishing up!

I need to get a brickshelf account, and post pictures of the fleet!

  
BTW, like the picture of you with your ship, dont often get to see the people who build the creations.

It was only because I wasn’t taking the pictures!!

  
best regards, stephen rowe

thanks for your input!!

kurt



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: (MOC) 36-gun Frigate RTS LEGOMALEE
 
(...) Not at all. Several people have commented that they thought my ships, the (URL) Misérable> and the (URL) HMLS Intractable> were the same size, until they saw them in person (or the comparison pics). The Mis is 6 centre sections, the Intracty (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.pirates, FTX)
  Re: (MOC) 36-gun Frigate RTS LEGOMALEE
 
(...) thank you for the compliments! sorry it took a day or two for me to get back to you, the semester just started up again, so im back to having little time. (...) it really doesnt, you did a good job of widening it so that it looks in (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.pirates, FTX)

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  Re: (MOC) 36-gun Frigate RTS LEGOMALEE
 
(...) hello! this is a wonderful ship you have here. you did a very nice job. 7 center sections is huge! i must echo everyone else in saying you did a great job widening the hull, i have thought about trying to widen a hull, but did not come up with (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.pirates, FTX)

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