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Re: My fleet is (emphatically not) bigger'n your fleet!
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Date: 
Mon, 8 Nov 1999 22:30:07 GMT
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In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> 
> 
> Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
> 
> > In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> > 
> > > _The Art of War_ makes that one of its central tenets--not the "manhandle • the
> > > horses" thing, but "don't hit them where they're strongest".  Wheel out the • long
> > > carronades and circle 'em with sloops!  Arrr...1588 all over again.
> > > 
> > > I can perhaps understand the horses--after all, there's only one pirate • wench.
> > > 
> > > LFB.
> > 
> > Them carronades be throwing a big ball a short ways.  Good fer poundin' in
> > close.  "Long carronades" be what they call an oxymoron (I be an eddicated
> > pyrate).
> 
> Ahhh heck.  You're right.  What am I thinking of?  Not culverins--those are • old
> bronze art-deco cannon, though they were long...I think that may be the term • used
> to refer to the long-range chasers as well.
> 
> LFB

Long cannons were simply refered to as long cannons, or long (shot weight).
E.G. Long 18s, long 12s, long 9s.  Long versions of a shot size were
considerably heavier than than non-long version, so often they were reserved as
bow-chasers or stern-chasers.

I'm not sure if Culverin somehow indicated construction method, or if the term
was attached to an older style (bronze with external ribbing?).

Bruce



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(...) It was an older style, originally, but I think the term enjoyed something of a new genesis in the 19th century--but in what context, I'm unsure. As for my fleet, well, I have a few things up, now that my old B&W scanner is working again: (...) (27 years ago, 9-Nov-99, to lugnet.pirates)

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(...) Ahhh heck. You're right. What am I thinking of? Not culverins--those are old bronze art-deco cannon, though they were long...I think that may be the term used to refer to the long-range chasers as well. LFB (27 years ago, 8-Nov-99, to lugnet.pirates)

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