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Re: LRGOAA & MichLUG Joint Meeting?
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lugnet.org.us.lrgoaa, lugnet.org.us.michlug
Date: 
Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:18:23 GMT
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In lugnet.org.us.lrgoaa, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
   “could be”, and *have been*, since way back when, actually. 2001 I think. We’ve (well, our resident robotics wizard, Steve Ringe has) been using RCX’s and other Technic gadgetry for doing things like turntable automation (press a button on the remote and the table indexes to the next track position, then locks into place so the track is perfectly aligned, press another one and it moves back the other way) streetcar automation (have a linear track with no bumpers at the ends, streetcar trips a sensor and stops at the station, then reverses, travels to the other station, repeat over and over) and even, believe it or not, radio controlled trains. (take an RC unit, and use it to drive the throttle. Now your handheld RC controller is wirelessly controlling the speed!)

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   In another thread, Jason’s given a pretty good overview of the history of the club. I hope you, Jona, will get over your perception that we’re not about robotics. Robotics is more than just robots. And our club is about more than PD realises, because, as he said, he’s new, and as you’ll learn if you talk to him for any period of time, he’s pretty Bionicle centric and not very aware of what else goes on around him. Not that that’s a bad thing, necessarily, unless it gets in the way of realising what’s actually going on.

While I do realize that the current definition of robotics (especially in the automotive capitol of the world) includes many things that are not commonly thought of as “robots”, I also have to say that automating a train layout with the RCX doesn’t exactly convince me that the MichLug is “about robotics” as you put it. Furthermore, something of this nature, while interesting and impressive in its own right, doesn’t pique my interest. The fundamental problem is that I have no interest in trains (LEGO or non-LEGO) and so while it may be a fun thing to attend another group’s meeting, I fear I would have a tough time justifying the action to myself and my family. I think what Jason says in a separate post about meaning to visit other groups, but never actually getting around to it rings very true.

   I’d love to do a joint meeting some time, or just have you or other LRGOAA members come to one of ours. We do a LOT more than just plan shows at our meetings.

I can see myself attending a MichLug meeting if I was bringing a robot to show-off and maybe solicit new participants to our events. I can not see myself attending a MichLug meeting because I like to discuss trains and towns and LEGO in general or with the overall intent of my group becoming a sub-group of the MichLug. I feel our focus is specific and to get glommed on to an umbrella group would dilute our identity. Additionally, any benefit that the MichLug would have by adding us to its roster of sub-groups can easily be achieved by those members who have robotics interest to start coming to our meetings.

   And, Jason is right. There’s no right or wrong organizational division or whatever... if you have another club, that’s great. It’s a lot of work to start and grow a club, so hats off to you!

Right. And from what Jason is saying in his post, it sounds like he was/is looking to fill in some down-time that the MichLug has in the summer months. This is a good thing for a group organizer to do, to be sure, but don’t be surprised when other groups are not jumping at the chance.

Personally, I would challenge any of the MichLug members who have interest in (or simply have) Mindstorms to come to our meetings and participate in one of our challenges. In fact, coming up in September will be Sumo-bot 6 which is the perfect chance for new comers to try something challenging but totally achievable and to get submersed in the advanced technics that the more experienced builders will be bringing. It is often said that sumo is an excellent starting point for robot enthusiasts.

If you can’t wait until September, you can attend our next event which is on Saturday, April 17th. We will be attempting an automated trash collection challenge put forth by one of our members. In this challenge, the robots need to negotiate the route (LEGO road baseplates) and when they detect a trash bin, empty its contents into themselves. For all of the event details see this page: http://www.24tooth.com/CurrentEvent.html. The rules are now official and we expect 4 or so robots (that I currently am aware of).

Following this we will be having our normal monthly meetings (May and June) and another event in July. The challenge for the July event hasn’t been decided on yet so if you are interested, you can put your 2 cents worth in at the meetings.

Jona



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  Re: LRGOAA & MichLUG Joint Meeting?
 
I think I may still not have made myself completely clear. In my view as an ex officer of the club, one of the principal bylaws authors, and as a general student of community, the club as a whole has no desire to see LRGOAA become a SIG within (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-04, to lugnet.org.us.lrgoaa, lugnet.org.us.michlug, FTX)
  Re: LRGOAA & MichLUG Joint Meeting?
 
(...) No one is trying to glom LRGOAA under the umbrella of MichLUG. LRGOAA is it's own entity, doing it's own thing. I was just trying to arrange a meeting. (...) Maybe I phrased something wrong in another email. MichLUG is likely to have a May (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-04, to lugnet.org.us.lrgoaa, lugnet.org.us.michlug, FTX)
  Re: LRGOAA & MichLUG Joint Meeting?
 
(...) MichLUG is about the LEGO experience in general, not any specific themes. Every member brings something different to the table. It's not just about Space, Castle, Pirates, BIONICLE, robotics, Sea Monkeys, sculpture, large-scale MOCs, or any (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-04, to lugnet.org.us.lrgoaa, lugnet.org.us.michlug, FTX)

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  Re: LRGOAA & MichLUG Joint Meeting?
 
(...) "could be", and *have been*, since way back when, actually. 2001 I think. We've (well, our resident robotics wizard, Steve Ringe has) been using RCX's and other Technic gadgetry for doing things like turntable automation (press a button on the (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-04, to lugnet.org.us.lrgoaa, lugnet.org.us.michlug, FTX)

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