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Re: Age limitations
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In lugnet.org.us, Todd Lehman writes:
> In lugnet.org.us, Shiri Dori writes:
> > [...]
> > In case someone missed this, one of NELUG's conditions for membership is
> > that a member must be over 18.
> > [...]
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> As a NELUG member, I'd love to hear stories/experiences specificially from
> 16-17 year olds (or 18-year-olds if you were once 16-17 as part of a LUG)
> who are members of other LUGs in the U.S....this might help me form a more
> solid opinion if the age issue is put to a formal vote at a future NELUG
> meeting.
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> * As a 16-17-year-old, how do/did you feel about being allowed into your
> local LUG? Grateful? Take it for granted? Surprised?
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> * How would you feel if you weren't allowed?
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> * What would you do (instead, to compensate) if the limit were 18 -- i.e.,
> if you weren't allowed?
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> * How has it enriched your life to be a member at age 16-17 as opposed to
> having to wait until you were 18?
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> * What would you recommend to a 16-year-old in an area where the local LUG's
> age requirement is 18+ ?
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> Thanks,
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> --Todd
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> [followups to .org.us]
todd ~
although i don't fall into the age category for these questions, i would
like to share some relevant experienciences.
first off, this timely post from steve jackson:
http://wwww.lugnet.com/fun/gaming/?n=450
~ just in case you missed it.
now, i've had my say in this specific age limit issue already:
http://www.lugnet.com/org/us?n=430
and feel like "debate" here has gone on long enough and as far as it can
go. it's a nelug matter now. you are a nelug member making an inquiry, and
i am taking this opportunity to illustrate my previous post with a personal
experience. not lug related, but similar enough for me to want to cite.
i took my first art classes when i was 12 years old. it was a private
summer program for kids 10-13, taught by houser smith and one of his regular
students. although his regular cut off age for students was 16, i raised a
ruckuss, pointed at my (quite remarkable, btw) drawings, and said "let me
in!" he made the exception. :-)
at 16, i was a four year veteran of his classes, and wanted to join the
figure drawing class. because we were working with a live model, the age
cutoff was 18. again i raised a fuss, pointed to my drawings and said let
me in. he made the exception.
i cannot tell you the world of good these experiences ennacted in my life.
_especially_ when i was 16 and 17, which are really _rough_ years in so many
ways. it truly strengthened my soul to be in a group made of college grads
and grannies, businesmen, and bums, painters, plumbers and poets, where we
were all equals with a common passion.
at 19, i was the youngest professional artist to work for dc comics. at
this point in life, i had the "raise a fuss/ point at drawing" gig down pat.
;-) would i ever had accomplished this if i hadn't been studying formaly
since the age of twelve? i doubt it.
i carry on houser's tradition today, teaching drawing and art classes. i
started with a 16+ age range. until i met nicole, whose raw talent at 14
could not be ignored. i threw the ages out the window. i even took on a 12
year old phenom (who's 13 now).
i've studied the effects and dynamics of younger and older students working
together my entire life, and it's wonderful. the adults need to find the
child within, and the kids need to feel the growing adult within, each, in
order to advance their art and themselves. working side by side is a way to
effortlesly accomplish this.
lego is the same sort of level playing field as art, where age matters
not. for teens to be able to hobnobb in such an arena with adults can
benifit them tremendously, building great self esteem (which is always
tricky at 16 ~ remember?) and creating positive experiences that last a
lifetime.
very important ~ these aren't just any teens we're talking about here. be
it art, theatre, or yes, even lego, mature, impassioned teens should be
acknowledged and encouraged, especially in a world where too many teens are
dull, drugged out slackers.
later ~ craig~
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| I'd like to add to Craig's thoughts with my own experiences. I was deep in my dark ages at age 16, but I became involved with the MIT gaming club at that point in my life. My introduction to the club was attending one of their game cons. I had been (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us)
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| (...) As a NELUG member, I'd love to hear stories/experiences specificially from 16-17 year olds (or 18-year-olds if you were once 16-17 as part of a LUG) who are members of other LUGs in the U.S....this might help me form a more solid opinion if (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.baylug, lugnet.org.us.dixielug, lugnet.org.us.gmlug, lugnet.org.us.lugola, lugnet.org.us.nclug, lugnet.org.us.nelug, lugnet.org.us.wafol, lugnet.org.us.wamalug) !
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