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In lugnet.org.us, Matthew Miller writes:
> Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote:
> > That was then, this is now. Though I'm not denying your unanimous vote, but
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> "Then" was less than half a year ago. I'm not sure how that can be construed
> as a long time.
Then I must be mistaken. I based that comment off of some stuff I read today
before posting my first reply, set 8 months ago, with a reference to this
decision being made 4 months earlier, so roughly a year.
> > their support for you now. You appear to be the _only_ one sticking up for
> > the position. I would say that it is time for another vote on the matter.
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> I assure you that I am not just ranting on my own. Remember that LUGnet is
> not a real-time forum, and that not many NELUG members are likely to be even
> reading this yet. In fact, some NELUG members don't even read LUGnet.
Yes, I understand that, and I don't expect full support one way or another
instantaneously. I just would have thought that if someone else felt strongly
about this issue, the would have chimed in too by now.
> > cause. Also, I am not (and I doubt anyone else is either) phased by your
> > multiple apologies to Shiri, when you refuse to weigh the issues and instead
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> You are right -- I am not attempting to weigh the issues. I am attempting to
> explain the official position of NELUG. (See: <http://www.nelug.org/faq/>.)
> I think for Shiri's sake that we will talk about this at a future meeting,
> but I don't feel that it's productive to hash things out here, especially
> with the general antagonism displayed by non-members.
I'd agree here. I am curious to know when this meeting is, because as I've
said before, I'll be moving into the area on the 26th of August (but freshman
orientation will take several days, IIRC), and if its going to be held that
late, I would definitely be interested in participating.
I do admit that I do become antagonized when I see this happening, especially
to someone I consider my friend. And I said before, it is a personal interest
because of my age, and because of the fact that I will be joining you guys in
a short while.
> I would encourage you to consider the things I've said in other posts, and
> the points made in the FAQ on the web site.
I've considered them--see Frank Filz's recent post at
http://www.lugnet.com/org/us/?n=457
I do believe that this post of yours is the most reasonable yet. I encourage
you to bring this up at the meeting and seriously discuss _all_ aspects of it,
including Shiri's extenuating circumstances, and the fact that her parents
have offered to sign the waiver. If for maturity's sake you must have an age
restriction, I would suggest lowering it to 16 or 14 at the LOWEST, OR
considering people on a case-by-case basis, carefully.
I feel strongly still, that the liability issue is a moot point.
-Tim
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| (...) Wait! How can you both say that maturity isn't directly attributable to age and then support _any_ age cut-off. This makes it sound like you're just trying to implement a change for...<blink, blink>...for what? Maybe for Shiri specifically? (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) I totally agree with Tim. And I realize that the issue isn't officially up for discussion when I say this, but I would still be in favor of lowering NELUG's age limit from 18 to 16. When the issue first came up last summer, IIRC, the number 18 (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) "Then" was less than half a year ago. I'm not sure how that can be construed as a long time. (...) I assure you that I am not just ranting on my own. Remember that LUGnet is not a real-time forum, and that not many NELUG members are likely to (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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