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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Trevyn Watson writes:
> Or maybe ed? It comes in the cygwin package, so itll run on windoze :)
> But Real Programmers edit the disk drive BY HAND!
Disk drive. Phft. When I was your age, we didn't have drives. We had the
disks alone. We had to manually flip the bits with little magnets found on
the ends of 4.5V trains. Kids these days :)
> Calum, now i want to know, why are you using FrontPhage? I suppose it's
> not all bad, at least you use Mozilla/Netscape to post.
I use FrontPage Express primarily because it outputs relatively clean HTML
code in comparison to other visual HTML editors (ie, it doesn't put
transparent spacers and crap like say, Dreamweaver does) with the except of
a few Windows oriented font tags (which both IE and NS4.0 support) IIRC. If
you inspect some of the HTML output of FrontPage, you'll find it's
relatively simple and compliant.
I also use some custom written scripts to generate the thumbnail tables,
then insert them in.
I think FrontPage has received some bad press mainly due to FrontPage
Extensions, the authoring and publishing add ons used on primarily IIS
servers. These are full of holes, but alas, I'm just using the editor
component (fpedit.exe) and connecting up via traditional UNIX methods to our
Solaris machine.
Now, if you're asking why I use a visual HTML editor, well, that's because I
like to see what I'm doing versus hitting reload every time I make a change.
I'm not even going to debate that one-webpage design really needs to be done
visually. Those who don't believe this tend to be freaks who also like
manually editing crontabs and those who know why the last item in a
PostScript output is "showpage".
As for using NS or Mozilla, I think you might be referring to this:
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 5.0)
As part of the raw message. As you'll notice, I use MSIE 5.5, not Netscape
or Mozilla. The browser identification user/agent bit is a hold over from
the days when Netscape was the dominant browser (ie, NS 1.1, 2.0 even 3.0)
and websites checked this string to ensure compatibility (which is poor
overall practice I suppose). IE would sent out this compatibility string to
fool those sites-which was also something Amiga and other alternative
platform browsers did.
Alas, you're talking to a heavily Microsoft centric kind of guy.
Calum
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