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Re: Open letter to the CEO of the LEGO Company / Call for your signs! (no discussions here please)
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Thu, 27 Jan 2005 01:53:14 GMT
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Calum Tsang wrote:
> In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Ken Koleda wrote:
> > In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Calum Tsang wrote:
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> > I think the main concern here seems to be that the sending of this letter will
> > harm you, by affecting TLC's view of you/our AFOL community?
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> That's one of the more prominent. Others could include discouraging newcomers
> to the hobby, painting Lego enthusiasts to the general public in a bad light,
> etc. But since we're intrinsically linked to the Lego Company (there are no
> other sources of Lego) yes, this is my major concern.
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> > However, I don't think the letter, even as it is, will have any adverse affects.
> > What could happen?
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> I think I've gone over this before. For isolated enthusiasts, not a heck of a
> lot. But for large groups, such as large LTCs, etc, it could mean:
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> -Losing the opportunity to do cool events jointly with Lego. eg, Roadshow.
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> -Missing out on Fan-Company projects like Lego Magazine models (which our group
> has participated in), My Own Creation (James Mathis and Daniel Siskind's models)
> etc.
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> -Not having support/materials such as... eg, Event Kits, AFOL magazines, Train
> Posters, direct mailing support for train shows.
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> -Less participation in Fan events such as BrickFest: eg, Brad Justus giving
> keynote talks, product prerelease unveilings etc.
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> ...just to name a few. Note, pretty well all of this has been mostly the work
> of Jake. And while not every colour change poster dislikes Jake (a
> generalization I made incorrectly), I don't believe the comments from certain
> peanut gallery members in regards to our Community Liaison help.
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> I certainly wouldn't want to be called a liar, then turn around and push
> initiatives inside the company on behalf of such folk.
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> Now, would these things disappear? I don't know. I personally see the link, I
> don't know if everyone agrees with me or not.
Calum,
I agree that there potentially *could* be some loss of support to the AFOLs from
TLC. That's hard to predict, but... presumably as often is said, TLC is
business. Presumably, the support/attention the AFOLs get form them is viewed
as a good business decision. I just can't see them writing off the AFOLs as a
result of some nasty letter writing.. or massive whining by a few. It's
possible they get many more nasty-grams from Joe-Q-parent on topics like bent
stickers in sets.
On-the-other-hand, if the support to AFOLs is simply insignificant to them, then
perhaps the extra grief they get from working with us could, I suppose, tip the
balance. Too many unkowns on this aspect.
> > and a venue for greiving the loss. Some folks need to greive more publicly than
> > others. Please let them.
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> a) People may grieve (or whine)
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> b) We may mock them for this and tell them to get over it.
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> c) Others may say, "you shouldn't criticise them"
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> But the same provision for a) should cover the provision for b) which is what c)
> was complaining about.
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> Calum
On this last part though, I think the disconnct is in a). While it's hard for a
lot of AFOLs to see this as other than whining... the response or feelings
thatoccur must be a spectrum and on the extreme end it is more akin to grieving
a deceased loved one. Okay, maybe not quite that much, but close.
If you can accept that the whining is part of the grieving process...
then is it helpful or "proper" [for lack of a better term] to criticize people
that are grieving?
I prefer the consolation approach.
1- There will be boatloads of used light gray, dark gray and brown hitting
bricklink for years. The lasg time on that must be like 6-10 years..before kids
give it up and it hits garage sales. Quality used brick can be found.
2- There is a practical limit to how much lego an AFOL can use in a lifetime. {I know this is hard to believe, but I am convinced -- okay, maybe).
BTW, I've told people [in real life] to "just get over it." If I recall
correctly it has never worked, not a single time. Sometimes it resulted in
physical pain to me too! :-)
-Ken
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