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Christopher L. Weeks <c576653@cclabs.missouri.edu> wrote:
> > For $2800 I can put together a P3 system that will perform as well, if
> > not better, than anything you can do on that G3.
>
> What's your hourly rate of pay? Add the time it takes you to research
> current prices, order parts from different vendors, assemble the box,
> tweak the OS, etc. and then where does the price fall?
Well, that's a good point. I could buy a prebuilt machine that
matches that G3's specs for $1626. Basically the same machine I just
ordered for myself at work minus the 21" monitor. And I won't have to
buy a real keyboard and mouse in addition to the piece of junk toy
ones they ship with the G3. :) (And don't say they're usable - I
know several mega-Mac dudes who wouldn't touch either with a ten foot
pole)
But you're right, I ought to consider my time in building a machine,
since that's what I do anyway - I hardly ever buy a prebuilt machine.
Not sure I could put a price on the work I put into building a
machine. If I did I guess I'd have to add value to it as well
considering I get exactly what I want, not random video card X, mostly
OK hard drive Y, and piece of junk gimmicky toy USB keyboard and mouse
that was made for a 6 year old hand. So I guess ultimately it's a
tradeoff.
> In my experience. And I'm happy (gleeful, actually (except for not
> finding a job)) to admit that I am wildly more proficient at
> administering one or a whole network full of Macs.
Well, if your main administering experience is only with Macs I can
see why it might be hard finding a job. Mainly because with the
exception of tiny niche pockets like graphics and such, the only place
in the world you find a network of Macs is at schools.
> It's like rocket science with an abacus. Everything on Windows feels
> clunky to me. This includes, but is not limited to: big wierd fonts
> that you can change - but even then there is something different, the
> way the mouse moves, the feel of the windowing system, and the strange
> (using 3.1/95/98 anyway) corelience on DOS and Windows as seperate but
> integral OSs.
Dunno what to say to that. Windows "feels" just fine to me. It works
most of the time, as does the MacOS work most of the time.
> But the same product (Photoshop for instance) is faster and more
> comfortable on the Mac. I know lots of PC advocates who are willing to
> concede that as a small victory for Macs. I think it's more significant
> than they do.
Faster in some respects, I guess. More comfortable? I learned
Photoshop in a 400 level art class a few years ago on a Mac. Even
then, at version 4, I was able to load it up on my PC with almost no
effort. Now the versions are almost transparently alike.
> As I point out above, those limits have pros and cons. It's quick and
> easy to upgrade your hardware because there are so few producers to
> choose from.
Well, that's one way of looking at it. It's also much more expensive
to do so since there are so few producers to choose from.
> > Going from 95 -> 98 is a bit more than patching the OS. And I'm not
>
> Why? It included AFAIK less system alterations than moving from system
> 7.5 to 8.0 which was just a little system upgrade.
With 7.5.1, 7.5.3, 7.5.5, 7.6, etc along the way, I suppose?
> Obviously, I don't really have one yet, but I expect to by a powerbook
> of somekind in the next couple of months. I'll give the situation a bit
> closer attention then. If they're really just toys I'll make the same
> choice. OTOH, I really do love the look of the tangerine iBook.
I'm a little sick of orange, myself.
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