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In article <slrn7pigfv.ln.cjc@VADER.NS.UTK.EDU>, cjc@newsguy.com wrote:
> Tim Rueger <rueger@io.com> wrote:
> > Since this is degenerating into advocacy, here's
> > why I use a Mac:
> >
> > 1) Perl
> > 2) Emacs
> > 3) Photoshop with scanner input
> > 4) Internet apps
> > 5) Zero-maintenance OS
> >
> > Show me a cheaper machine than my Mac that does
> > these things, and I'll buy it.
>
> Not sure what Mac you have, so it's hard to know if this machine is
> (or was) cheaper, but my wife's P2-350 can do all those (although she
> doesn't do 1 + 2). We have Photoshop with 2 different scanners
> (flatbed HP and HP negative/slide scanner), net stuff, etc.
I'm use a hand-me-down PM6100 (60MHz 601) that I've
added memory and an L2 cache to, say $150 total. We also
have a substantially more expensive Power Computing box
(CPU was about $1400 in '97, we've added other stuff
since then).
> Dunno exactly what you mean by zero-maintenance OS. A desktop machine
> that doesn't ever burp is one that isn't being used, on both the PC
> and Mac side of the fence. I rebuild MY machine almost monthly, but
> that's because I run a half dozen OSes, use lots of beta junk, etc.
This is precisely what I want to avoid. I need a
tool, not another pet. (Off-topic off-topic: my
cat's been sick lately, and I'm trying to sell my
house - talk about horrific timing).
"Zero maintenance" means no user-serviceable parts
(except *maybe* OS upgrades, and I'm still using
MacOS 8.1). This means no patches, no service packs,
no kernel rebuilds, no nothing. I only have time
to use my machine, and none to mess with it.
> Rachael has probably HAD to reboot her machine once in the last 6-9
> months. She's probably chosen to reboot it a half dozen times, but
> every one of those was after a game that is known to crash from time
> to time did so, and one of the suggested "fixes" was to reboot.
Stability (lack of OS crashes) is to some extent a
different issue from downtime spent repairing an OS
that shouldn't be broken in the first place, but
that's a good point. The Mac still crashes too much.
> I made an image of Rachael's machine back in December, when I rebuilt
> it after taking NT off it (didn't have to rebuild, just didn't need
> the NT junk on it so I did). Haven't had to ghost that image back
> onto the machine yet. To ME, that's zero-maintenance.
But for Rachael, it looks like she needs a sysadmin
(i.e., you) to take care of this stuff. I have
no such people available to me, nor do I think
they should be necessary to use a computer in 1999.
-Tim
--
Tim and/or Shelley Rueger - rueger "at" io.com
WWW page: http://www.io.com/~rueger/
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| (...) Ok, so asking for a cheaper machine than a hand-me-down is a bit misleading, don't you think? I could just as easily say that Rachael's P2-350 was a hand-me-down for her (since it was) because it used to be my machine. In fact, since it hasn't (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| (...) Not sure what Mac you have, so it's hard to know if this machine is (or was) cheaper, but my wife's P2-350 can do all those (although she doesn't do 1 + 2). We have Photoshop with 2 different scanners (flatbed HP and HP negative/slide (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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