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Re: Security?
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lugnet.off-topic.geek
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Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:47:11 GMT
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Dave Schuler wrote:
> > First of all, a lot of systems don't lock out accounts, just because
> > they are misconfigured, or their admin doesn't realise the danger.
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> Sure, but what's the point of disabling my system after my own bogus
> attempts? To date, the only one who's been kept out of my system for that
> reason is me! I mean, why set "3" as the magic number, if external,
> high-voulme attacks are the big danger?
because disabling the login (at least for a while) does help defend
against brute force attacks. and the number 3 isn't magical in any way
- I think a lot of systems have it set for 5, and from what I know, it's
always configurable. the admin can set it for 20 or something, without
a major loss to security, imo.
> > Also, remember that most password hacking will occure offline - the
> > intruder will somehow (and there are many possible ways), get a copy of
> > the system passwords, in encrypted form, then download it to his own box
> > and hammer at the file without alerting anyone...
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> True. How, though, does he circumvent the "three strikes" problem? I'd
> love to know his secret, if only so that I can get into my own system on my
> fourth try!
if I have a copy of your password file, I can put it on my system and
run an external program - the file itself doesn't lock up, it's the
system that does that. If I put your file on my system, nothing will
lock it out after 3 tries :)
does this explain anything?
:)
Dan
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| (...) 8^) I'd figured that "3" had no inherent signficance but was just a standard. (...) Yeah--now how do I get into my system? Dave! (24 years ago, 13-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| (...) Sure, but what's the point of disabling my system after my own bogus attempts? To date, the only one who's been kept out of my system for that reason is me! I mean, why set "3" as the magic number, if external, high-voulme attacks are the big (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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