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Re: movie: The Patriot
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Mon, 3 Jul 2000 01:47:55 GMT
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First off, excellent film. If you haven't seen I recomend you do so.
In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
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> I saw The Patriot last night with Mel Gibson. (Actually, I wasn't with him, • he
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> I liked it well enough but it seemed kind of wishy-washy in several ways.
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> Most importantly, it was a historical fiction, right? Well... It is pretty
> one-sided in the depiction of the nice/good/brave revolutionaries and the
> evil/silly loyalists. The relationship between Marin and Tavington seems like
> something that just had to be put in place for the sake of being a Hollywood
> film. I would rather it have been less personal. Or at least less personal • on
> one of the sides.
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> Martin's transformation from peacenik to bloodthirsty crazed warrior seems • like
> a bit of a stretch. If they were going to portray him as such, why go to such
> great effort to show him as peaceful in the beginning?
This was explained in the film. He was a soldier in the French and Indian War
and went "Bloodthirsty." He didn't want to go back to that in the begining but
realized it was neccesary later.
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> Good things:
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> The choreography of the ambush that Martin and sons stage near the beginning
> was incredible. One of the best fights in film history. It took the good
> parts of Hong Kong action film fighting and left out the bad parts and thrust
> it into the late 1700s.
Yes that was awesome.
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> Scenery was grand. Costumes, buildings, big battles, etc. were all very well
> done and very pretty to look at.
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> Gibson's performance was good. I think the role was a little shallow, and he
> added depth. Who would have thought where he'd go after Mad Max?
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> Protagonists die. I am agravated by Hollywood miracles saving the • protagonists
> of most films from grave situations. In The Patriot, several empathic
> protagonists die, and you often feel it. The church scene did not, however, • do
> it for me.
I belive that historically that is what happened in that town. I remember
seeing a special on Public Broadcast that had many primary sources read aloud.
I seem to recall a letter about the british burnt a church. I could be
mistaken but I don't think I am.
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> The running length was two hours and 45 minutes. I like long films. It was
> used to good effect. Another movie, Heat, was about 170 minutes and was way
> too long. In this film, there was important development, characterization,
> drama, and plot pretty steadily throughout.
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> The supporting cast was good. Jason Isaacs was great as the evil Tavington,
> even if the character was overdone. I liked seeing Adam Baldwin, Stephen
> Tobolowsky, Chris Cook, etc.
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> Anyone else see it?
Yes, Me.
-Lord Insanity
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> If you like Ebert reviews, you can read his at
> http://www.suntimes.com/output/ebert1/patr28.html
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> Chris
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