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Re: Stephenson's Rocket
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Date: 
Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:13:48 GMT
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Christopher Weeks wrote:

In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Larry Pieniazek writes:
I also like the PC version of 1830.  I mostly play with random maps now.

I have a rather old CD at this point of this which we played a fair bit, but I
like the board version better, multiplayer on the PC was cumbersome, and • single
player not as fun as against humans. (it's great to send someone up the river

Right...I've only played single player.  I'd rather play on a board with
players too, but I can drive through a game in 1 hour which I just can't do
with humans on the other end.

Interestingly, the computer version of 1830 sold me on the real board
game. I had played 1829, but when 1830 first came out, I passed on it
because I thought the smaller board would make the game less
interesting. Definitely not so.

with a well timed dump, and you can't do that against the PC players, they
can't be suckered...)

Agreed.  But I can.  So they get the best of me.  And on the 1 in 3 where I win
, I feel like I earned it.

I prefer 1870 of the 18xx games that I've played (1830, 56, 70, • 53(?...Imperial
India), and 35.

I've only played '29 (? the english) '30 and '35 (which I found quite hard to
fathom, I don't grok the intermediate stage). Why do you like '70?

Oh yeah, I've played '29 too, with one or two of the little expansions.  Maybe
for social reasons more than game reasons.  It was my second try with the
system, after '56.  I think it's quite better than '56 which is dominated by
the socializing of the Canadian lines (as it's supposed to be).  I also lived
in the area 1870 covered (the south midwest: Chicago to Texas).  OTOH, I've met
others from around the nation who also like it best.  <shrug>  Have you ever
looked at http://freespace.virgin.net/chris.lawson/18xx/index.htm ?  It's a
great 18xx site.

I haven't checked this site against the games I have to see if I have
all the 18xx games which are commonly available in stores (I am still
hoping to find the original editions of 1829). I even picked up 2038 by
Tim Jim games, which looks like a good extension of the theme into the
asteroid belt. I haven't played this with real players, but solo played
a 4 player game, and it seemed to flow pretty well. I was also glad I
didn't rush out and buy 1856 and 1870, I later found them on clearance
for half price. Right now I'd have to say that the original edition of
1829 south would be my favorite as that is the only one I've played much
of.

I definitely enjoy economic games (which is what the 18xx games really
are). I've long enjoyed Acquire, especially since I won the 1st game I
played. I forget if it was that 1st game, or my 2nd where I had the
starting tiles to create three hotel chains and cause the two mergers to
bring them together before anyone else had a chance to buy any of the
stock (they were all busy buying stock in the chains THEY had started).

--
Frank Filz

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  Re: Stephenson's Rocket
 
(...) I do too. And I agree that 18xx is fully an economic game. (...) Have you seen the new version? I just picked it up Saturday morning. It's pretty. The game doesn't need to be pretty, but it is nicer. Chris (25 years ago, 17-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

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(...) but (...) OK. Knizia's games (the ones that I know at least) seem to have a fairly small ruleset by which the players manipulate stuff within a fixed space. These game/rule/logic systems have a veneer of theme pasted on. Often, even the best (...) (25 years ago, 15-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

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