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Re: It's perfect!
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Thu, 9 Jan 2003 23:26:34 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Shaun Sullivan writes:
> In lugnet.starwars, Shaun Sullivan writes:
> > In lugnet.starwars, Jason J. Railton writes:
> > > In lugnet.starwars, Mark Chittenden writes:
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> > > Small quadraped animals (dogs, for example) have reversed knees on the back
> > > legs, for running. Very large ones (elephants, or dinosaurs like
> > > diplodocus) have/had reversed knees on the front legs, for better balance.
> > > The only quadraped that walks with four forward knees is two men in a
> > > pantomime horse, but that's how AT-ATs walk.
> >
> > Weeelllll, technically, that's not right. All mammals have knees that bend in
> > the same basic direction - as long as you have a consistent definition for a
> > knee. In most mammals, though, the thigh bone is much shorter and compacted
> > into the body, with a much elongated shin and, usually, a much elongated
> > "foot".
> >
> > This picture shows it pretty well:
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> > http://www.specificbreeds.com/html/skeleton.html
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> > If you look at the outline, you can see why it is that we don't really notice
> > the knee, per se - it is hidden in the structure of the upper leg and body.
> >
> > Take your dog, for example. What you are calling its "knee" is actually its
> > ankle (analogizing to human anatomy). It's foot is long and thin, and doesn't
> > really touch the ground - instead, your dog walks, basically, on his toes
> > only.
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> Bad form, but I'm replying to my own message - 'cause I forgot to tie it into
> Star Wars.
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> I did a quick study a couple of years ago on the AT-ST. If you check out the
> pictures from the movie, you can see that the AT-ST does indeed have a knee
> that faces the correct direction ... plus an ankle ... plus a toe joint ...
> plus one extra one between the ankle and toe:
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> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=22976
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> 1 = thigh
> knee joint
> 2 = shin
> ankle joint
> 3 = foot section 1
> new joint
> 4 = foot section 2
> toe joint
> 5 = toe
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> The AT-AT also has this small, body-packed upper leg section. The legs of the
> AT-AT actually attach to the body near the center, but there are small leg
> sections, hidden behind the lifting brackets, that extend either forward or
> backward. Attached to these are the long, vertical leg sections. In that
> sense, the AT-AT *does* have backwards knees on the rear legs.
>
> Anyway, just some points of interest.
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> -s
Well, if this is indeed the case, then we should ask LEGO to give us a more
accurate Special Edition AT-ST that has the correct working knee joints and
such. Also, making octagonal pieces like in the side cannons in the picture
that you posted on LUGNET for this new LEGO set would SO be a good idea.
Until then, I would consider this to be a challenge for you, to build as
accurate of an AT-ST model out of LEGO pieces as you can with what you have
right now in your LEGO collection. Oh, I know of some pieces that might
work for those parts on the side cannons. (LEGO can simply make these parts
dark gray instead of white, as the parts are now.) I forget what they
exactly look like but they are small, white octagonal pieces that kind of
look like a spider web. They are also about 4 studs by 4 studs wide. Maybe
you know what parts that I am talking about and maybe not but I am trying to
help here.
Oh, and some kinds of birds, such as flamingos and cranes also have this
unique feature of this leg structure on their bodies.
Jesse Long
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| (...) Bad form, but I'm replying to my own message - 'cause I forgot to tie it into Star Wars. I did a quick study a couple of years ago on the AT-ST. If you check out the pictures from the movie, you can see that the AT-ST does indeed have a knee (...) (22 years ago, 8-Jan-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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