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Subject:	Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Thu, 25 Jan 2001 05:58:48 GMT
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David Eaton wrote: > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Guy Albertelli writes: > > Unlikely, very unlikely. But definately possible. And if you told me that > > there were !many! trucks crashing, and one time you found the model fully > > contructed, I would find your staement likely. > > I wouldn't. > > Basically, what it boils down to is predictable fractal behavior. Although > still random-looking, the system follows very consistant patterns. For > example, imagine fractal-generated landscapes. Or basically just imagine > 'possible' coastlines. Would you believe it if there was a coastline that > was PERFECTLY straight for 100 miles then turned at a PERFECT 90 degree > angle, and went straight another 100 miles? While yes, there's nothing > strictly preventing the system from behaving in such a way, it's not > within the behavioral patterns of the system. However, I WOULD believe it > to be MUCH more likely that a perfect replica of the US coastline was > duplicated-- just because that pattern DOES follow the same 'patterns' of > behavior exhibited by coastlines... And to clarify, I'm not saying it's > IMPOSSIBLE, but that I wouldn't believe it to be likely, even if you ran > the 'experiment' a googol plex times. I still think you are seeing patterns you find interesting. When I buy a lottery ticket I always get "1 2 3 4 5 6" The U.S. coast line appearing _exactly_ the same somewhere else is "as" unlikely as the 200 mile one you posit.

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		Chaotic Systems... (was: Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism)
(...) And I'd argue that that's JUST as likely as any other combination of numbers, accepting that each lottery number is as equally likely to appear as the next. Hence, you're fine. (...) The difference is in the inherent behavior of the system. (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism
(...) I wouldn't. Basically, what it boils down to is predictable fractal behavior. Although still random-looking, the system follows very consistant patterns. For example, imagine fractal-generated landscapes. Or basically just imagine 'possible' (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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