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Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism
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Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:04:42 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> > James Brown wrote:
> > > Hundreds of thousands of people have no knowledge of Brazil outside of
> > > testimonials, but they believe in the existance of Brazil.
> >
> > Ah, but this is NOT taken on Faith - this can be easily proved - simply buy
> > a plane ticket and watch the ground go by during the flight ;-)
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> Satellite pictures of the whole earth. Tests verify that the satellite is
> working accurately, and the pictures verify that which I am directly
> familiar with and further verify the various claims it is there. I haven't
> been there, but the evidence that I have access to is consistent with Brazil
> being there. Experiments to find it can be reproduced with identical
> results (sail on this compass heading, fly over here, look at these
> coordinates, study the reflection patterns of these seismic waves, note the
> infra-red readings from this instrument that we can verify is working
> accurately, etc.). I don't have to actually go to Brazil to be reasonably
> certain that it exists.
But have you, personally, conducted these various experiments to prove the
existance of Brazil, or are you accepting the testimonial evidence of those
that have?
If you have not actually verified for yourself that Brazil exists, you take
it on faith (or don't, I suppose...). It doesn't matter how large or small
the body of evidence is, you are still CHOOSING to accept or not accept it.
Any and all evidence that you do not directly observe is testimonial in
nature. The difference in accepting Brazil on faith and accepting God on
faith is a matter of degree, not of kind. (which is, I think, where this
particular branch started)
James
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) You are confusing an overwhelming body of evidence that reduces the probablity of inaccuracy to virtually nothing with "faith". You are also confusing reproducable results through a set experiment with no reproducable results that have no set (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism
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| Aaargh! I typed lengthy responses to two respective posts by you and by David, and both times my workplace suffered a blink in power, rebooting my computer. Thus we are all denied the glory of my wisdom, and thus we must all take on faith that I (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism
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| (...) Depends on how you want to phrase it: I find given the scale of the universe, it seems mathematically likely that there is extra-terrestrial life. Evidence is suggesting that planets are fairly common. The right mix of time, elements, (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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