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Subject: 
Re: My Gun Control Rant
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Date: 
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 21:40:44 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tim Culberson writes:

Scott A wrote:

OK. So who is in the next room? Your kids? Your dog? Your neighbours?

What is your argument....please think about what you've
said....obviously you will analyze that whenever you are in the
situation.  At what point did Larry mention he would fire at any
criminal no matter what the cost....I think you're aware of the layout
of your home and if your child is behind the criminal you're not going
to shoot.

... and what is the bullet bouces of the washing machine?

I'm sorry but obviously you're not terribly aware of the nature of a
moving bullet.

Yep, I do not live in a gun culture.

From previous conversations, you're telling me the
bullet cn go through a wall but not through a household washing
machine?  Think about this for a moment.

I'm pretty sure it could do both. Think about this for a moment.

Hold on a second here!  Who's saying what?????  First you make the
comment that the bullet is going to bounce of the washing machine and
then you agree with me that it could both go through a wall or a washing
machine.....which is what I said in the first place.....so if you
remember the original conversation, you were arguing that using a gun
against a criinal in your house was a bad idea because it could go
through the wall and hit someone.....so what exactly is it going to do
if it goes through a washing machine?  Or are you going to change your
mind again and decide that it will bounce off the washing machine.  I'm
having visions of davy crocket shooting a mug off the top of his head
holding it over his shoulder looking in the mirror aiming a frying pan
here.

Think about this for a moment:
1) Are all walls the same?
2) Are all washing machines the same?
3) What angle will a bullet hit a wall at?
4) What angle will a bullet hit a washing machine at?

I concede that a bullet may well go through a wall and a WM. But, I also
argue that it may not go through a wall (my own are 200-300mm sandstone) or
a WM.

Scott A



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  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) Call the question. Are we arguing ballistics, or discussing the role of a well regulated militia in a free society? (or even in Canada, not quite free at this time) I'm confused. For the record, I concede that there is a non zero probability (...) (23 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
Scott, Larry & Tim, Well, I understand this whole debate came from the initial posting of gun control. And I agree that controlling guns may not have the desired affect upon gun related crimes, since only law-abiding citizens will register. But (...) (23 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) Hold on a second here! Who's saying what????? First you make the comment that the bullet is going to bounce of the washing machine and then you agree with me that it could both go through a wall or a washing machine.....which is what I said in (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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