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Re: Nature of man (was Re: Problems with Christianity)
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Tue, 19 Dec 2000 22:17:48 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Brown writes:

Man (unlike the remainder of God's creations) has free will, and for that
free will to be real (as opposed to just a perception of free will), the
options must exist independent of man's nature; ergo, man is neither good
nor evil, but has the capacity for either (or both).(1)

  This view is both aesthetically pleasing and consistent with much medieval
doctrine.  That is, man is capable of embracing salvation or damnation by
his own actions.  An infant starts as neither good nor evil but able to
succumb to temptation yet also to achieve grace.  If man were inherently
good, then he could embrace salvation without doing anything, and if he were
inherently evil, he would be damned through no fault of his own.  Either of
these outcomes could hardly be called just, since man is predisposed to be
doomed or saved regardless of his own actions.  Being born imperfect but
untainted, man can decide for himself whether to give in to temptation or to
aspire to grace.

(I realize that's somewhat circular, but I think my premise can be infered
more easily than it can be stated catagorically.

  Actually, it's a lot less circular than other arguments put forth in this
sort of discussion.

1:That's my derivation, and not a matter of doctrine, AFAIK.

  I don't know if it's current doctrine, but it's in line with Boethius,
Milton, and a horde of medieval scholars on the subject.

   Dave!



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  Nature of man (was Re: Problems with Christianity)
 
(...) <snippage for the purpose of emphasis, also because I'm coming in late, and am (bluntly) too lazy to hunt up the argument to date and comment in a forward-moving way> I'm not sure about other flavours of christianity, but I know that the RC (...) (24 years ago, 19-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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