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Re: Religion and Science
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Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:23:02 GMT
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Steve Thomas wrote in message ...
Kevin Wilson wrote
Of course, there's also the disagreement beyond the obvious
(e.g. don't kill, lie, steal) as to what the "morals" are that you
have  to stick to... many of us don't subscribe to some of the
christian moral requirements.

Here's what I was more interested in: would you mind elaborating on a • couple
of the more prominent "Christian moral requirements" you disagree with and
why?  I've done a little studying on Christian ethics and would be
interested to see if I could shed some light on those areas of
disagreement.

The widest gulf is in sexual "morals". The requirement to get married in
order to have sex, for example, is one that many people nowadays don't
subscribe to. Various Christian sects have a variety of opinions on what it
OK as sexual activity, ranging from "outie" in "innie" only (and only one
type of "innie" may be used!), to "it's none of our business what you do in
private". As a gay man, I'd run foul of the opinions of many Christian sects
that it's either immoral to *be* gay at all, or that it's OK to be gay but
*gay sex* is immoral. Sorry, I didn't sign up to be a monk :-). There's also
the obvious Catholic problem of birth control. Polyamory too: this is a
religious shibboleth which spilled over into law (like so many things - eg
Sunday closing) and hasn't yet un-spilled, but there's no non-religious
reason why consenting adults should not form families with more than one
adult.

It's actually very difficult to discuss this because of the variety of
opinions the many different flavors of Christianity seem to hold. I suppose
someone could pick their sect to match their own opinions as to which set of
morals is "right" (or convenient?) but to me the amount of disagreement
places the entire religion in question.

Kevin



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  Re: Religion and Science
 
(...) I wonder about this -- maybe there are good sociological/behavioral reasons for 1+1 couples making better families (still a hot topic in Utah as far as I know). What type of marriage has been more common around the world, couples or multiple (...) (24 years ago, 13-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Religion and Science
 
Kevin, I responded to your post above in a new thread (something more appropriate than "Religion and Science") called "Christian morality". Thanks and take care, Steve (24 years ago, 14-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Religion and Science
 
Kevin, (...) I think we use terms like "a good and moral life" in different senses. When Christians say that atheists, agnostics, or people from other world religions lead "good, moral lives," they are speaking with reference to humanity as a whole (...) (24 years ago, 13-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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