To LUGNET HomepageTo LUGNET News HomepageTo LUGNET Guide Homepage
 Help on Searching
 
Post new message to lugnet.off-topic.debateOpen lugnet.off-topic.debate in your NNTP NewsreaderTo LUGNET News Traffic PageSign In (Members)
 Off-Topic / Debate / 7541
7540  |  7542
Subject: 
Re: The god debate again... sigh (Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:43:29 GMT
Viewed: 
2515 times
  
Larry Pieniazek wrote:

> Stipulating that there is a connection for the sake of argument (there isn't):
> 
> Well, since no one *has* witnessed gods, god or God, in an objective,
> verifiable way, we're safe there. If your christian god is fundamentally
> unknowable, you have no way of knowing if your Born Again Moment(tm) was the
> the One True holy spirit or just DTs from last nights unholy spirits. We
> covered this last time, remember? What's changed since then? Why bring it up
> again?
> 
> > Those who have not found God have not sought him in
> > the right place.
> 
> Or they aren't looking.
> 
> I tend to label myself an atheist, because explaining that I'm agnostic to
> the extent of allowing for the existence of an unknowable spirit who has no
> effect on the universe whatever (no other kind is supported by the evidence)
> is too much gafla to inflict on your random minister (although I'm happy to
> tell Jehovah's Witnesses all about it, it messes with their world view).

To be short, ditto.  I find it ends a conversation (that I don't want to plow
through YET AGAIN) quicker if I just say I am an atheist, rather than saying I am
agnostic.

I have had JWs come to my door, I tell them that while I have read The Bible in
it's entirety (KJ version, I believe, it's been more than 15 years since I read
it), it's just an interesting book to me, I am an atheist.  Boy do they leave fast
;-)


--
| Tom Stangl, Technical Support          Netscape Communications Corp
|      Please do not associate my personal views with my employer



Message has 1 Reply:
  Re: The god debate again... sigh (Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) Tom/Larry or whomever... (Too busy to read what's already been discussed... I just caught your post on the news main page... so I'm sure you'll let me know if I've missed something... :-) ) No offense intended, but my philosophy courses taught (...) (26 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Message is in Reply To:
  The god debate again... sigh (Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
Plowed ground alert. Let's see if I can manage to just say ONE post on this and then let it go. or if anyone else can either... hahaha... (1) (...) Stipulating that there is a connection for the sake of argument (there isn't): Well, since no one (...) (26 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

231 Messages in This Thread:
(Inline display suppressed due to large size. Click Dots below to view.)
Entire Thread on One Page:
Nested:  All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:  All | Brief | Compact

This Message and its Replies on One Page:
Nested:  All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:  All | Brief | Compact
    

©2005 LUGNET. All rights reserved. - hosted by steinbruch.info GbR