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Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
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Date: 
Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:52:51 GMT
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Scott A wrote:

> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > 
> > 
> > Scott A wrote:
> > 
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > > > The whole problem of the abortion debate is that it is actually *two*
> > > > debates intertwined into one.  One, whether the government has the right
> > > > to tell one what one can do with one's body (most would say no),
> > > 
> > > This issue aside, I can't agree with this. Goverment should also protect us
> > > from ourselves.
> > 
> > Government should protect us from ourselves???  This is an absurd statement in
> > my mind (see my statement about avoiding personal responsibility), but I sense
> > a fundamental disagreement here as to the purpose of government and will agree
> > to disagree.
> 
> I agree :)
> 
> > 
> > > If one were to decide to take ones own life, one would
> > > expect "government" to get involved.
> > > 
> > > > and
> > > > whether one has the right to take the life of another (most would say
> > > > no).
> > > 
> > > Perhaps. However, a man was democratically executed in Texas last-night(?).
> > 
> > Scott Simpson in the post above differentiates very well the difference
> > between ending the life of an innocent fetus, and ending the life of a brutal
> > murderer, etc.  My statement assumed unjustified taking of a life.  Government
> > executions of convicted criminals are just (assuming a fair trial).
> 
> The problem here is what is "unjustified" to you may be OK to me - or vise
> versa. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one too.

Well, not what "unjustified" means to *me*, but to what society says.  In the case
of capital punishment, society may say that *that* is justice; therefore
executions are justified in the eyes of that society.  If you mean to agree to
disagree that society should never punish crimes with executions, than okay.  I
actually tend to agree.

-John

> 
> 
> Scott A



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  Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
 
(...) If a given group of people reach a democratic decision after am informed, educated and objective debate - who am I to argue against they are "wrong"? I may disagree, but I can only respect their opinion. This issue aside, at times (...) (26 years ago, 10-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
 
(...) I agree :) (...) The problem here is what is "unjustified" to you may be OK to me - or vise versa. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one too. Scott A (...) (26 years ago, 10-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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