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Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
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Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:52:51 GMT
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Scott A wrote:

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:


Scott A wrote:

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
The whole problem of the abortion debate is that it is actually *two*
debates intertwined into one.  One, whether the government has the right
to tell one what one can do with one's body (most would say no),

This issue aside, I can't agree with this. Goverment should also protect us
from ourselves.

Government should protect us from ourselves???  This is an absurd statement in
my mind (see my statement about avoiding personal responsibility), but I sense
a fundamental disagreement here as to the purpose of government and will agree
to disagree.

I agree :)


If one were to decide to take ones own life, one would
expect "government" to get involved.

and
whether one has the right to take the life of another (most would say
no).

Perhaps. However, a man was democratically executed in Texas last-night(?).

Scott Simpson in the post above differentiates very well the difference
between ending the life of an innocent fetus, and ending the life of a brutal
murderer, etc.  My statement assumed unjustified taking of a life.  Government
executions of convicted criminals are just (assuming a fair trial).

The problem here is what is "unjustified" to you may be OK to me - or vise
versa. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one too.

Well, not what "unjustified" means to *me*, but to what society says.  In the case
of capital punishment, society may say that *that* is justice; therefore
executions are justified in the eyes of that society.  If you mean to agree to
disagree that society should never punish crimes with executions, than okay.  I
actually tend to agree.

-John



Scott A



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  Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
 
(...) If a given group of people reach a democratic decision after am informed, educated and objective debate - who am I to argue against they are "wrong"? I may disagree, but I can only respect their opinion. This issue aside, at times (...) (24 years ago, 10-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
 
(...) I agree :) (...) The problem here is what is "unjustified" to you may be OK to me - or vise versa. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one too. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 10-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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