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Re: From Harry Browne
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 9 Nov 2000 16:15:29 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > I'm not going to reply to most of this, as I doubt we'd ever really reach • a
> > consensus.
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> Isn't what you actually mean "I don't have any refutation"?
lol
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> > It really comes down to what your life is about:
> >
> > 1. Being a part of society
> >
> > 2. Or the accumulation of personal wealth.
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> You're right. I choose being a part of society.
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> What about you? I'd say that if we take a survey of your posts here (not a
> scientific metric!!!) on Lugnet, you're probably going the other way. Most
> of your posts are flogging things in market.auction. <grin>
I doubt it results in an "accumulation of personal wealth". Additionally,
I'm
not yet at the stage where I'm copyrighting brick combinations ;-)
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> I choose to be a part of society. That includes working for change. You • NEED
> to answer this (from a previous post) or you lose any credibility with me
> (meaning that you're in the "uncritical thinker" column)
I'm not sure what you point is, so I can't answer Larry.
>
> > 2. Are you saying, then, that because you're convinced that people should
> > fund these goods that your preferred mode of government provides, that • you
> > are willing to see government extract those funds by force? Answer yes or
> > no, please, because that's what it comes down to.
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> Answer yes or no, or you're dodging, and you can't dodge the dodging charge
> either... This is ALL plowed ground, though.
I answer that elsewhere Larry.
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> > > Restating, if you say people generally act in their self interest, I • agree.
> > > I see that as a good thing. If you mean to imply that acting in self
> > > interest means that people never give to charity, always try to break all
> > > laws, always try to cheat their fellows, and always act churlishly, I • disagree.
> >
> > It is the nature of man Larry. Like it or not.
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> You need to prove that statement. I'm convinced that the truth is • completely
> the other way.
Look at how the developed world continues to wreck the developing world -
not much charity there Larry. But out of the wreckage, comes gold and silver
for you and I.
> Most people are good, kind, charitable, honest and productive
> members of society, and the few bad apples aren't enough to spoil it for • the
> rest of us in a properly structured society in which we incent good
> behaviour and good outcomes and disincent bad.
>
> If you really truly believe man is mostly bad... I pity you.
I think man has a lot of bad in him. Too much.
> Your life must
> be very sad and I'm sorry for you.
Don't be sorry Larry, I'm a happy sole. I live in a great country, in city
which is the best in the world (Honest). I, and my family, enjoy good health
and a happy life. There are few things in life I really need right now. I
know I'm lucky.
> I mean that sincerely.
I mean it sincerely when I say am happy that day-to-day I don't have to deal
with the kind of political ideals that you and you LP share. I looked at
their agenda last night, it is both a simplistic and selfish agenda. Sad. I
do not understand why they do not come right out and say - "we'll make the
rich richer, and the poor poorer".
Scott A
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> ++Lar
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