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Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
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Mon, 24 Jul 2000 23:04:56 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
Nuclear warfare and basic sustenance are two different things.  I'm not
convinced you can draw a parallel between the two.

What is the essence of their difference that makes you think them not
analagous?

One has to eat, one doesn't have to invent elaborate weapons and detonate
them.

One has to eat something and one has to defend oneself somehow.

Only if attacked.  One must eat, period.

But in the world of predators and prey, one is attacked.  One must be able to
defend oneself.

I'm only offering a quick $.02, since this isn't my branch of the debate,
but I'm perceiving a miscommunication of intent here.  I think Bruce's
assertion is that the biological need for food and the need for the means to
acquire food have evolved over eons into their present forms, while nuclear
weapons and their detonation are technological products of the past few
decades.  As such, our need to eat is inherent in our biology, but our
detonation of such weapons is a conscious response to the modern world. A
difference not of degree, but of kind. Taken from this perspective, the two
are visibly quite different.  Am I reading you right, Bruce?

Essentially.  One is at an extremely basic level, the other is not.  Inferring
too much from them as a matching set is fraught with hazards.  Best to make the
point with some other example.

Bruce



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  Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
 
Hmm, just a random potshot here. (...) If what defines us is our use of tools and our ability to manipulate the environment instead of just react to it, both of which are due to our ability to reason in a self aware manner, how are a club and a (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Why is cockfighting bad? (was: Pokemon (was: Harry Potter Lego Line))
 
(...) I'm only offering a quick $.02, since this isn't my branch of the debate, but I'm perceiving a miscommunication of intent here. I think Bruce's assertion is that the biological need for food and the need for the means to acquire food have (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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