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Re: Global Warming (was: Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?)
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Thu, 11 May 2000 04:37:59 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Shiri Dori writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Shiri Dori writes:

I give on the icecaps, ok? If they all melt at once, we're all going wading.
You still have to show that they're all going to melt, though. Won't take
much,
a few degrees higher average temp should do the trick, but the trends we see
are measured in hundreths of a degree.

IIRC, the 'trends' have been measured as 1 degree celsius (1.8 F) over the
past [hundred I think] years.

That data is suspect. 100 years ago we did not have the technology to determine
what the temperature was in a repeatable way over enough sample points to
determine what the average temperature is at a given location. We've had that
technology for much less than 50 years, I'd say. And 50 years does not a
climactic trend make.

I repeat, while prudence is good, there is every reason to believe this is
normal variation and has nothing to do with our activities. The data is too
inconclusive to go off half cocked and wreck an industrial civilization over a
chimera.

And IF there's a problem, there are better ways of tackling it than going after
greenhouse gasses. Lots and lots better ways. Many of THEM have the side
benefit that you end up with an industrial base in space as a result, instead
of a wrecked industrial base on the planet and nothing in space.

++Lar



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  Re: Global Warming (was: Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?)
 
(...) The determinations of temperature prior to accurate, systematic measurements by humans are derived from other environmental evidence, rather than simply noting what the thermometer said 150 years ago. I regret that I don’t have the particulars (...) (25 years ago, 11-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Global Warming (was: Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?)
 
(...) They are plenty of ways to confidently estimate temperture. I'm looking at a graph I'm placing into a report right now that has sea-surface temperature estimates off the coast of California back to 130 kyears ago. As Dave said, they are other (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Global Warming (was: Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?)
 
(...) IIRC, the 'trends' have been measured as 1 degree celsius (1.8 F) over the past [hundred I think] years. (Dang, wish I had some sources; but I never kept my notes...) The years might be way off, but it's definitely not more than 100; if (...) (25 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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