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Re: Trying to understand
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:55:17 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> Karim wrote:
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> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
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> > > I understand the more popular arguments against trigger locks,
> > > (in that, if one can steal a gun, one can steal the gun's key),
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> > Actually, this is one that I can't understand at all.... I can't figure out • how
> > ANYONE could object to mandatory trigger locks... How in the world would
> > something like that impinge on your rights? Now, granted, it most likely • would
> > not do a thing to combat a lot of the high-publicity shootings that have
> > recently occurred (but then, no law would... those people were criminals... • by
> > definition, not being controlled by laws). However, it would probably help
> > reduce the number of annual accidental deaths-by-gunshot that occur when • little
> > johnny finds his father's gun in the closet, which, believe it or not, is a
> > pretty high number.
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> My gun is kept locked in a box with a combination lock I can silently
> work by feel. It's not loaded, but the bullets are in a speed loader in
> the box.
Thank you Larry. I'm glad that I know of at least one individual who has a
relatively safe storage method. I understand the need for speed and the need
for safety as well. It sounds like you have found an acceptable comprimise to
both.
> Trigger locks increase the time it takes (me, anyway) to get my gun
> ready to use, when I am operating in total darkness and in silent mode,
> by a large enough amount that they seriously decrease my personal
> safety. Where would you like me to keep the key to a trigger lock so
> that I can find it in the dark without making any noise but so that it's
> safe from my kids finding it? My kids are clever but not persistent
> enough to guess a 4 digit combination lock.
That is a good point. However, I still feel that the trigger locks should be in
place when a gun is sold. Whether or not they remain there after the gun is
sold, I have no control of. Having the lock in place to me, reinforces the
notion to the buyer that the gun is not a toy and that special precautions
need to be taken with it to avoid accidents.
> Trigger locks are a direct attack on the notion of using a gun in self
> defense.
Could you expand on this statement for me. I *think* I know what you are
getting at, but want to make sure before I open my mouth and say something
stupid.
> And they lull people into a false sense of security.
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> Oh, and little Nik doesn't have to "find" my gun, he knows right where
> it is. He also knows it's locked away and not a toy.
That boils down to education. Education is a good thing and I'm all for that.
> > Honestly, This is perhaps the ONLY reasonable and practical gun saftey
> > regulation ever to be proposed by congress. I still don't understand on
> > what grounds anyone opposes it.
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> Hopefully, now you do.
>
> --
> Larry Pieniazek - lpieniazek@mercator.com - http://my.voyager.net/lar
> http://www.mercator.com. Mercator, the e-business transformation company
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>
> Note: this is a family forum!
-Duane
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| (...) My issue there is the slippery slope. Just as with seatbelts. Note well that I support seat belt usage and I've even come to terms with mandatory seat belt usage. But once locks are required to be shipped, it's not much of a stretch to (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) My gun is kept locked in a box with a combination lock I can silently work by feel. It's not loaded, but the bullets are in a speed loader in the box. Trigger locks increase the time it takes (me, anyway) to get my gun ready to use, when I am (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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