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Re: Mormon bashing again
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Fri, 3 Mar 2000 05:34:11 GMT
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On Fri, 3 Mar 2000 01:34:14 GMT, Sproaticus <jsproat@io.com> wrote:
First I'll say this... this thread is making me homesick!!!!
> Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
> > I haven't read the slashdot thread at all, or your post closely, so I may be
> > speaking out of turn. But, seems to me that BYU can do whatever they want about
> > approving or disapproving housing, as long as they don't have the force of law
> > behind them. (and as long as they don't get state/fed funding... do they??? If
> > so, then <sigh>... never mind)
>
> Well, BYU is a private school. But like any big school they get all kinds of
> financial kickbacks from the state and the city of Provo, as well as outright
> funding.
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> So while they don't have the force of law behind them, they do have the force
> of contract on their side, which ultimately results in a stranglehold on
> single-residence and small-family housing policies for a valley populated by
> something like 1/4 million college students and their dependents.
>
> Lemme explain:
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> For a single-residence housing structure to be BYU approved, it must follow a
> strict set of rules: no smoking, no alcohol, no drugs, no weapons (which I
> enforce myself anyway), every apartment in the the entire building must follow
> the same BYU-approval guidelines, no "obscene" material (and that term is used
> *very* loosely), no mixed-gender buildings, no members of the opposite sex in
> the bedrooms, permission for arbitrary and spontaneous search-and-siezure by
> BYU and / or the Provo police, and on and on and on.
Man, they'd just just have to see my music collection to freak out
about me. ^_^; Oh well. (it's that naughty frank zappa I tell you!)
Course, they don't seem to be THAT bad, I used to talk to a BYU
student who is an Oingo Boingo fan, and they have a few songs that are
highly questionable and she never had any problems.
> So...to my fevered and legally ignorant brain, that consitutes a
> state-sanctioned morality clause on housing policies in Utah Valley. I can
> either rent to non-BYU students (a small but growing demographic), or I can
> waive some important rights and become BYU-approved and get a guaranteed rent
> every month. If I were in it strictly for the money, I'd go for it; but alas,
> I have my scruples.
Ooh! Ooh! Rent to me! At a very low rate! ^_^ (hey, I can try to
lighten this thread up can't I?)
> Oh, and I never mentioned BYU's Honor Committee. Oy vey, the Honor Committe.
> On-campus dress code Nazis, basically. If you enter campus with a beard, or
> wearing a tank-top or shorts above the knee, or (until recently) without
> socks, they'd harass you. Even if you aren't a BYU student. Fortunately,
> they've been less and less of an irritation to me lately (I had long hair last
> time I entered BYU campus); I believe they're quietly phasing out this policy.
*sighs* Alas, this was something I never got around to doing. (have
to keep in mind that my friends are goths, skaters, and various
"others." I think we have a perverse sense of humour or something.
*goes back to being homesick again* =P
(And I'm a nice person, really! I just find humans amusing). ^_^
Okay, that foot is never coming out of my mouth and I don't care!
> > None of that has anything to do with religious fanaticism which shows that
> > slashdot can get it wrong.
>
> Yah, but it's not religious fanatacism they're slamming, it's religious
> stigma. Any different religion will do. It's little minds throwing rocks at
> unusual folks they refuse to try to understand. Definitely, it was one of
> Slashdot's less-impressive feats of discussion.
Ah yes, the geeks of slashdot with all the social grace of an
anthropomorphic slug. It's any wonder I don't usually read the
"discussions" there. Alot of those aboved mentioned slugs need to
take a cultural studies class an I'm not talking "African-American
Studies" (no offence to african americans, it's the PC endocrination
enrichment of those style of classes I don't care for). The kind I'm
thinking of is more of an Ethnological/Anthropological class where the
teacher emphasizes that the very different culture is not "weird' but
just different. Helps in acceptance and the like. Plus you can learn
some interesting stuff at the same time. (okay, have I given my major
and political agenda away yet?)
Jaa ne!
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