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Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]
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Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:07:12 GMT
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James Brown wrote:
> I disagree, but that's nothing new. :)
> What puzzles me about this whole argument is how you(in the general sense) can
> be advocating person x being responsible for person y's actions? If someone
> else causes a violation of rights, how can I being punished for that if I'm
> not directly linked to their actions? That seems contradictory to the
> underpinnings of libertarian thought.
Until August, I managed ~140 employees in a technical customer service
setting. If one of them was rude to a client it was my fault. Period.
I did what I could to personally apologize to the client and explain
that the employee in question was being trained more thoroughly or is no
longer with the organization. I would be less willing to take fiscal
responsibility for them in the setting where I was, but I suppose a case
could be made...
The idea of being responsible for the behavior of your direct reports is
nothing new. And it's not anti libertarian. As a worker, I'm allowed
to sign up for whatever liability I want to. If I take a CEO position,
I know that I have a big target on my back. If I don't want it there,
then I don't take the job. It's a matter of choice.
> Now, if said company officers can be shown beyond reasonable doubt to be
> responsible, then heck yeah, throw the book at them! But if they're not
> involved, why are they at fault?
What is reasonable doubt? If a company has slip-shop methods of safety
and security verification, then the top decision makers are the ones
responsible for not seeing that better methods are in place. The top
leaders define the philosophy for the entire organization.
Chris
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| (...) can (...) What if the guy who's rude isn't rude because of poor training, or anything that *you* did/should have done/could have done? What if he's rude because he just had a huge fight with his ex-wife, and took that baggage to work? If (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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