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Re: Frog
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Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:49:05 GMT
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> I've always wondered about this.  I have some questions WRT this stance.
> 
> What does superior mean?  Is it based on cognitive-emotional capacity?
> Frankly, using what I guess to be the answer, I consider myself superior
> to most of humanity, but I don't believe I have the right to eat
> them...that would be socially inappropriate.  Yet, we have the right to
> eat other animals.  how does that work?
> 
> I guess the real thing is this: if not based on some measure of
> 'intelligence,' then the line is drawn based on philogenetic
> relatedness.  If this is correct, why does 'the line' fall between
> humans and non-humans?  Why not move the line toward us and place it
> between people of very similar genetics and people of more distant
> genetic makeup?  Why not move it away so that mammals are not
> appropriate food sources, but other things are?  How would this be
> different, if there were a species with which we could breed but it
> produced sterile offspring?  What if some cetaceans are similarly
> complex, are they appropriate foodstuff?
> 
> How does this co-depend with your Libertarianism?  How does the typical
> libertarian incorporate non-humans into the scheme of 'rights?'  It
> seems that like most folks, they have decided that only humans have
> rights.  Is that your impression?
> 
> I have attempted to express myself without indicating my own biases, and
> without offending.  I hope it worked.


Maybe there isn't a scientifically defined line, and maybe the line that
does exist is not fixed for all of humanity or perhaps it even changes over
the life of a single individual. consider dogs? Some cultures consider this
food.  Some put them right up there with children.  I have a pet dog, but
I'd not be adverse to try Dog meat one day, not MY dog probably but a dog.

Tim



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  Re: Frog
 
(...) Great. Now you've got me thinking about the film _A Boy and his Dog_. Steve (28 years ago, 8-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Frog
 
(...) This is obviously the case, not just a maybe. What I mean is that for each person there is (presumably) a line of the sort described. It does change over a lifetime, it has for me. It is different from culture to culture. Etc. You suggest that (...) (28 years ago, 8-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Frog
 
(...) I've always wondered about this. I have some questions WRT this stance. What does superior mean? Is it based on cognitive-emotional capacity? Frankly, using what I guess to be the answer, I consider myself superior to most of humanity, but I (...) (28 years ago, 8-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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