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Re: Libertarian stuff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:13:47 GMT
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Richard Franks wrote in message ...
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John DiRienzo writes:
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> > I think you believe you have a right to some of Bill Gates money because • he is
> > so successful. Or that you have a right to mine. I don't believe that,
> > myself.
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> I don't believe that myself either, in fact I've no idea where it came • from! Do
> you believe that just because I don't agree 100% with you that • automatically
> makes me socialist, communist, or any other leftist label?
Well, I must have took it the wrong way, but it sure looked like you were
complaining that you might, under a Libertarian system, actually have to
spend more of your own money to pay for the services the government is
currently providing for you. I was pointing out who is actually paying "the
difference" currently, and as it is something that sets me off, I made a
hasty assumption. You seem to be changing your tone quite a bit mid stream,
because I could have sworn you were well aligned with those who landed in
left field on that little quiz. If I am wrong about that, I can't think of
much that would please me more to be wrong about.
> I'm tired trying to argue against things that I haven't thought said or
> implied. If you want to claim victory by the fact I'm giving up on this
> argumentative thread then fine - you win by default, you get all the
points.
Wow! It seemed you were doing the same thing. Maybe, if nothing else,
we will both come out of this with better debate skills. IE getting our
point across, without letting others misread what we are typing. I need to
work on that, it seems like I am misunderstood unless I am extremely
verbose.
> I call you on your offer to become serious - debating shouldn't be about
> 'winning' anyway, or being right - at least that shouldn't be the
motivation.
Cool.
> > If they want to stay in business they will have to remain affordable, • or
> > else lose all there revenue to competitors. For you, if you make $30,000 • a
> > year, these actual costs added all together might be more. For an
> > entrepreneur or someone like Bill Gates these costs would be a fraction of
> > what they are currently paying. I think you believe you have a right to
> > some of Bill Gates money because he is so successful. Or that you have a
> > right to mine. I don't believe that, myself. In fact, I don't think that
> > encourages success, at all. Just think, though, if your making $30,000 • now,
> > and you actually work for it, you'll probably make quite a bit more in a
> > Libertarian society.
> <Nitpick> The LEGO Bricks that you've been dreaming of...</Nit-pick>
> Tomato/Tomato.
LEGO Sets really.
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Have fun!
John
The Legos you've been dreaming of...
http://www114.pair.com/ig88/lego
my weird Lego site:
http://www114.pair.com/ig88/
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