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Re: Swearing?
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Date: 
Thu, 6 Jan 2000 05:24:31 GMT
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Matthew Miller wrote:

John Neal <johnneal@uswest.net> wrote:
It's useful if you are a pervert trying to pass off obscenities as art.

"Pornography!" is a useful label if you're a reactionary who is frightened
by art that might make people think.

No, I am waving around the term because I'm searching for something so vile and
contemptuous that it is an example of something that art isn't.  And I'm not
talking about photos of nude, newborn babies.  I'm talking about depictions of
sexual perversions involving children and adults, for example.  Yeah, being
exposed to that kind of filth (not saying I have because I haven't and should
not *ever* be exposed to such things) would make one think, but who needs those
thoughts and images floating around in one's brain forever?  No one.

-John



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Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Swearing?
 
(...) I don't think you're going to find such a thing, because "vile and contemptuous" isn't something that makes something art or not. If a thing is truely vile and contemptuous, it might be something that, as you say, no one ever should be exposed (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Swearing?
 
(...) john ~ there are better ways to define something than to say what it is not. it's like trying to describe an elephant by saying it's not a mouse. in your search for a definition of art has gotten off track with this pornography thing. have you (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Swearing?
 
(...) It's useful if you are a pervert trying to pass off obscenities as art. (...) Well, one is expressed in writing and the other is expressed in a painting. (...) How about Guernica is a painting that expresses a political statement? -John (...) (24 years ago, 5-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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