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Subject: 
Re: Swearing?
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Date: 
Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:58:04 GMT
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Christopher Lannan wrote:

Whoo hoo! One fo my very favorite debates has reared up again! And it's only
been a week or so!

You really can't tell people not to be "obscene", "vulgar" "profane" or
"indecent" and expect them to follow those instructions exactly unless they
have been very well coached to know what is "obscene", "vulgar", "profane", and
"indecent" to you. Everyday in the news there is an art exhibit that a great
many people feel is all of the above. A crucifix submerged in a jar of urine
or a Madonna with feces for nipples come to mind.

Ah, one of my favorite debate topics - what is art, or more specifically, where is
the line between pornography and art?  Your examples of "art" IMHO aren't really
art, but are (very intentionally) vulgar, obscene attempts to offend particular
groups.  The artists who create such things are weak-minded non-Christians who are
too lazy or dim to come up with anything profound.  Their work says more about
their own ineptitude than their subject matter.

<Donning flame suit and beaming to .debate> John








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(...) Yikes! Well, I won't flame you because I expect that neither of us is qualified to define "art." However, you've mounted some ad hominem attacks against prospective artists, and, in the end, these can weaken your own credibility and do nothing (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Swearing?
 
(...) Whoo hoo! One fo my very favorite debates has reared up again! And it's only been a week or so! You really can't tell people not to be "obscene", "vulgar" "profane" or "indecent" and expect them to follow those instructions exactly unless they (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)

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