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Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
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Sun, 2 Jan 2000 06:57:57 GMT
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Jasper Janssen wrote in message <38a2c49d.967187668@lugnet.com>...
> On Sun, 2 Jan 2000 01:51:40 GMT, Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net>
> wrote:
> > Jasper Janssen's cat walked on the keyboard and to Jasper's dread wrote:
> > > "E-space" (Now _there's_ a horrible term if I ever heard one. Almost
> > > as bad as "Information Superhighway"), however, is hardly
> > > frontier-like.
> >
> > There you go again.
> >
> > Another incorrect assertion, presented without proof. Examine the
> > aspects of something that make it frontier-like, and you'll find that
> > the internet is indeed a frontier. What are your criteria for a
> > frontier?
>
> New, virgin territory, actual land, would be one. The internet may be
> vaguely analogous to the real world, but it just doesn't apply.
>
> The internet simply isn't space. It is a communications medium only.
> It provides a way of reaching new markets, of reaching markets more
> easily, and how exactly that is done is fairly uncharted. It even
> provides for new ways of doing things completely - but it remains just
> a communications medium.
Look it up.
> Not anything _new_.
>
> People weren't exactly able to get rich on the US frontier either just
> through hard work and a vision. The only examples of people getting
> rich off the frontier I can think off are the Texan oil-wells and the
> California gold-rush, both of which involved mineral wealth (which
> doesn't exist in virtual life), and much more luck than hard work, let
> alone vision. Aside from mineral wealths, which can be "produced"
> relatively easily, it would appear the only way to get rich off the
> frontier was to wait till the farmers had done most of the real work
> and move in then with investment money.
And where did those mineral seekers live? Who built their houses? Why
were there towns, banks, saloons, stores? How did they get to those far off
places? Who invested in these ventures? Did all of this magically produced
or was it "produced"? ~Plenty~ of money was made on things other than
minerals. ~Plenty~ of men got rich. It was even that hard, as long as you
applied knowledge and worked. And its not that hard now, but should (and
could) be easier.
> >
> > > Gimme some search terms or general dates to work with. You're too
> > > prolific a poster (even when you add "+body: right") to just reread it
> > > all.
> >
> > Look it up yourself, you lazy get...
>
> Errm, the burden of proof is upon you, not me, so in this case, you're
> the one being lazy..
I will help ya. Look for a big thread in .debate. The big one's
normally have many of Larry's finer work. For a date, try the 1990s.
Haven't seen much in the aughtsies, as yet. He must be busy. Also, I think
a good one was called free goods, maybe.
> I'm quite willing to do some of the work for you, but be reasonable
> here. I don't have that much to gain by doing the work, do I? (nor do
> you, I suppose, when it comes down to it...)
You could learn something, he could reread his stuff (which we all know he
loves to do) - I know one thing - I am not doing it! Well, maybe later,
just for fun, but then I might start something up that had already been laid
to rest....
> And to tell you the truth, reading every single post you've ever made
> to .debate just isn't my idea of a fun month.
>
> Jasper
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Have fun!
John
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