| | The Ultimate Discussion (was: Re: A Berkeley Study That Portrays Liberalism Positively?!!)
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| (...) Now, now, settle down, Dave! I'm pretty sure that the word "ultimate" pre-existed some apocryphal, presidential playbook and no association with OFL whatsoever was intended. (...) Let's see. (...) See? You got it on the first try! :-) (...) (...) (19 years ago, 23-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
| | | | Re: The Ultimate Discussion (was: Re: A Berkeley Study That Portrays Liberalism Positively?!!)
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| (...) Ahhh, but see is unrestrained murder of thousands of your subjects "more ultimate" than the murder of the guy that breaks into your house? If so, how can murder be the "ultimate crime"? If not, why do they carry different sentences? (...) (...) (19 years ago, 23-Mar-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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