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Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
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Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:51:40 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Rob Doucette wrote:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford wrote:
> > > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
> > > > > In lugnet.space, Ross Crawford wrote:
> > > > > > That was just lar making another
> > > > > > snide comment, based on false premise.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Snide comments can have premises?  I thought they were just mean.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Rosco, are your snide comments generally based on true premises?
> > > > 
> > > > LOL Lenny, have you stopped beating children senseless??????
> > > 
> > > Maybe I'm slow, but I'm not following here.  What does this even mean?
> > 
> > Its called a Loaded Question, a type of fallacious argument.  A question with a
> > false, disputed, or question-begging presupposition[1].
> > 
> > In your case the presupposition is that ROSCO's comments are snide.  Ross in
> > turn countered with the classic example is 'When did you stop beating your
> > children?' which you apparently missed entirely.
> > 
> > -Rob.
> > 
> > 1. http://www.fallacyfiles.org/loadques.html
> 
> Ahh! I follow now.  He's trying to call me out for making a fallacious
> argument/question.  But then, isn't it possible for Ross to deny that he made
> snide comments at all?  Although I suspect that would be a pretty bold denial,
> since Ross does make snide comments all the time.
> 
> I guess my point is that its a bit wild to accuse Lar of making both snide
> comments and using false premises for those snide comments.  Especially since
> Ross is judging Lar for something that Ross does all the time.  I'm sure that's
> a fallacy to say that, but I don't think it's fair either.

So basically you're saying Ross is a hypocrite?  Well, I'm a hypocrite and so
are you, Larry, and everyone else in the world.  The person who says they've
never been hypocritical is not only a hypocrite but a liar as well.  The world
would be awfully quiet if every hypocrite stopped talking.

-Orion



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  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Ahh.. if only wishing would make it so. (21 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) argument/question. But then, isn't it possible for Ross to deny that he made snide comments at all? Although I suspect that would be a pretty bold denial, since Ross does make snide comments all the time. I guess my point is that its a bit (...) (21 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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