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Subject:	Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:12:45 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:

I think it’s more accurate to say that our founding fathers believed rights to be inherent to some people,

Careful, don’t fall into the trap of thinking they were of one mind on everything. I fall into this trap a lot myself. The D of I, the articles of confederation and the constitution are held by many to be compromise documents, particularly in the area of slavery. Not all northern FFs liked slavery but they did feel they needed to include the slave colonies in the Union to be viable so they compromised.

That’s true, of course--they were distinct individuals with distinct ideas. My intent, though, was to show that the document they brought to the table allowed the denial of rights to certain groups for the most mundane and terrestrial of reasons: politics.

You could argue they should not have done so. That would be an interesting Alternate History to write...

Jeez, that’s a good question. Would the DOI and Constitution ever have been signed if the forward-thinking FF had demanded the abolition of slavery? And what would have happened to the infant US economy in the wake of this demand?

Interesting...

Dave!

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		Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
(...) Agreed. Although I do go into "FF worship mode" here from time to time (no, really??), they certainly had feet of clay just like everyone else. (...) Good question in turn. Taking that a bit further, what would have happened in Britain? Would (...) (20 years ago, 27-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
(...) Careful, don't fall into the trap of thinking they were of one mind on everything. I fall into this trap a lot myself. The D of I, the articles of confederation and the constitution are held by many to be compromise documents, particularly in (...) (20 years ago, 27-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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