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Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
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Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:02:57 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:

   I think it’s more accurate to say that our founding fathers believed rights to be inherent to some people,

Careful, don’t fall into the trap of thinking they were of one mind on everything. I fall into this trap a lot myself. The D of I, the articles of confederation and the constitution are held by many to be compromise documents, particularly in the area of slavery. Not all northern FFs liked slavery but they did feel they needed to include the slave colonies in the Union to be viable so they compromised.

You could argue they should not have done so. That would be an interesting Alternate History to write...

   but they had no problem in accommodating slavery and the denial of women’s suffrage. These aren’t trifling matters, either--the founding fathers made a choice, conscious or otherwise, to include certain groups (by coincidence, predominantly wealthy white male land owners (then as now, I suppose)) and to exclude others. The rights of those “others” were certainly alienable.




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  Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
 
(...) That's true, of course--they were distinct individuals with distinct ideas. My intent, though, was to show that the document they brought to the table allowed the denial of rights to certain groups for the most mundane and terrestrial of (...) (20 years ago, 27-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
 
(...) I think it's more accurate to say that our founding fathers believed rights to be inherent to some people, but they had no problem in accommodating slavery and the denial of women's suffrage. These aren't trifling matters, either--the founding (...) (20 years ago, 27-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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