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Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 20 Jul 2004 23:19:01 GMT
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"Purple Dave" <purpledave@maskofdestiny.com> wrote in message
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> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz wrote:
> > While there may not be a "Church of Atheism", I guarantee there are • atheist
> > clergy who can and do perform weddings. Unitarian Universalist churches • are
> > one of the best places to find them.
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> <http://www.uua.org/aboutuu/ With its historical roots in the Jewish and
> Christian traditions, Unitarian Universalism is a liberal religion -- that • is, a
> religion that keeps an open mind to the religious questions people have
> struggled with in all times and places.>
>
> From Webster's New World Dictionary, 3rd Ed.:
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> {an [atheist] rejects all religious belief and denies the existence of • God}
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> Some members of the UUA may consider themselves to be atheists, but by • simply
> joining the UUA, a religion (which developed out of Judeo-Christian • beliefs, no
> less), they are, in essence, stepping outside of atheism (the UUA page • uses the
> term "non-theists"). You can't have a formalized religion that rejects • all
> religious beliefs. It's entirely contradictory.
There are UUs who have no religious beliefs (unless you want to claim
"faith" in science as a religious belief). I've only ever heard atheism as
denying the existence of god, even from ministers and divinity students, so
I wonder how valid that Webster's definition is. Even if you take that
definition, there are UUs who would probably still qualify (I have heard
people talk about the Sunday service as a "symposium" or "lecture" to remove
all semblance of religion - though you may not find any UU ministers who
take that extreme).
Frank
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