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Re: We'll take in your poor, your homeless, your oppressed...
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:51:48 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> > Okay, I think that makes some sense. But couldn't the dominant nation simply
> > impose upon the seceeding nation a fee of, say, a billion dollars per person to
> > effect the secession?
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> In advance? Would you sign up for that? Or do you mean after the fact against
> people who were in already? I would tend to think (and I'm guessing here) that
> every new law (except basic common law, you can't dodge the prohibition against
> stealing) is a new secession opportunity, just before it goes into effect.
Well, maybe this is a better hypothetical: What if the dominant nation
(accepting, though, that the minarchist idea kind of trumps this) simply buys
all territory surrounding the smaller nation and then charges the smaller nation
a billion dollars per person to cross the surrounding territory, airspace, or
what-have-you? The dominant nation is no longer the invader, but it still
wields crippling power over the subjugated state.
> You mean kinda like in Iraq right now? Guerilla warfare always is more expensive
> for the invader than the guerillas... it's just hard to convert to victory
> unless the invader tires of the game.
That probably won't happen, hypothetically, until after Nov 2. Hypothetically.
> Also, why is the neighbor "vastly more powerful"? In the end state there are a
> lot of small nations, none of whom has much power to mount vast invasions.
Yeah, that's a problem for my example. How about a number of parties
contractually bound to one another and acting in concert against a party that is
weaker than the aggregated contract-holders?
Dave!
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