(...) It would probably be helpful if the United States itself embraced those ideals, rather than simply claiming to embrace them. Dave! (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
(...) To quote a twist of a famous quotation: "The devil is in the details". We try, and that is all we can do. The world should at least have the opportunity to try. JOHN (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
