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Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
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Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:05:28 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:

   Easily seen thru the gun debate--“Guns solve problems” Hey, when that crook is dead at your doorstep, I guess it’s difficult to argue that rationale--problem solved--I wasn’t robbed! However, looking past the ‘immediately fixed problem’ we see a larger picture of even bigger problems associated--why was there a crook in the first place? Drug habit? Too poor to afford food for family? And the otehr fallout of having guns in the house--Few weeks back, adn I refrained from posting it--he was 4 years old and he shot his sister dead and wounded another.

Crappy parents raise stupid kids.

   It was probably a legally obtained gun. I don’t know, nor does it matter--if there was no gun, she’d still be alive. This isn’t a ‘few eggs being broken to make something better’, this is thousands of deaths per year. It hasn’t been proven, nor can it be imho, that if you don’t have your gun, that your elected leaders would become tyrannical.

Well throughout history we have yet to see a country prove otherwise. Oh wait, that’s not proof?!

   I’ve pointed to instances in recent history and I see with my own eyes elections happening in democratic countries all over the world, and I don’t see, nor hear of the need for, guns.

You know you still have not replied to this

-Mike Petrucelli



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  Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
 
(...) You didn't say anything new in there at all, Mike. Lets have a looksee-- " Are you joking? “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” What (...) (21 years ago, 21-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
 
(...) Well, I'd have to say the recent (last 50-75 years) histories of many South American countries is also proof that not having guns makes a country ripe for a dictatorship. So yeah, if that's not proof I don't know what is... I think Kooties (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
 
(...) The cohesion is there. I think you're just blinded to it. It's an inherent factor in your culture--it's something I noticed when I was in Chicago last week. In one breath a guy I was in a meeting with spoke of 'socialism' as if it was dung on (...) (21 years ago, 21-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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