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Subject:	Re: Voluntary, private discrimination (Was: Disparicies in Sentencing)
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Tue, 14 Sep 1999 01:08:00 GMT
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On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:36:27 GMT, "Sproaticus" <jsproat@io.com> wrote: > I hope you can see just how stupid-sounding what you just said was. Murder is > okay when done at the command of a military officer, but not okay when > otherwise? Morality doesn't play into this at all; you just obey the orders > from above. Did I read that right, or am I mis-interpreting what you are > saying? Are you actually promoting the Nuremburg Defense? I certainly don't think he meant to say that, although I can see how you might read it into it. Still, killing the enemy in wartime is not murder. Shooting helpless women and children in Vietnamese villages is murder, though, no matter who tells you to do it. And sending people to die in gas chambers is also murder, regardless of orders, as any sane person would say. -- The parts you want and nothing else? http://jaba.dtrh.com/ - Just Another Brick Auction Why pay eBay? Run your own LEGO auctions for free! http://www.guarded-inn.com/bricks/

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		Re: Voluntary, private discrimination (Was: Disparicies in Sentencing)
(...) I disagree, depending on circumstances. (And so do you, sort of.) Shooting helpless whomever is immoral if they're no threat. What if letting them live will allow them to further contribute to the infrastructure of war against your side? Kill (...) (25 years ago, 14-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Voluntary, private discrimination (Was: Disparicies in Sentencing)
(...) They would justify it to themselves. From their point of view, you're part of the problem. Of course, you're perfectly justified -- from your end -- in defending yourself in any way you can. (...) You do have the right to withdraw at any time (...) (25 years ago, 14-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Voluntary, private discrimination (Was: Disparicies in Sentencing)
Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote (...) Mike, while I don't want to get into a debate with you about military service in general, the issue of "who is the enemy" is a very fuzzy one, and at various times all sorts of people have been (...) (25 years ago, 14-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Voluntary, private discrimination (Was: Disparicies in Sentencing)
(...) that. (...) legally, (...) I hope you can see just how stupid-sounding what you just said was. Murder is okay when done at the command of a military officer, but not okay when otherwise? Morality doesn't play into this at all; you just obey (...) (25 years ago, 13-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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