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Re: Voluntary, private discrimination (Was: Disparicies in Sentencing)
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Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:43:29 GMT
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Naji Norder wrote:

(I've snipped a lot here and there.)

me too

I'm not a fan of the thought police myself.  Consider this: there has been much
debate about banning the burning of the US flag.  However, in all of this, they
never mention that it is and would continue to be fine to burn it in retirement
ceremonies.  I've been to those myself in Boy Scouts.  We all gather around a
great pyre, and salute a flag that has served its duty well, as it is burned.
After all, the only two ways to properly dispose of a flag is to burn it or
bury it.  This is why I can't agree with any "flag burning" amendment.  If you
can burn it out of respect, but it is made illegal to burn it out of contempt,
then you are being prosecuted based on your thoughts.

Agreed. I think constitutional amendments are needed for LARGE issues
(like giving the vote to previously disenfranchised citizens), or to
correct procedural oversights (like changing the succession rules of the
presidency to ensure no possible gap in coverage).  It is pretty clear
that burning the flag (in a safe way, in a place where you are ensuring
that there will be no pollution and not on public property) is an
expression of thought, and therefore protected speech.

A lot of these right wing hot button issues that amendments are proposed
for seem ludicrous to me.

Allowing school prayer? No way. Separate public schools from private,
then allow prayer in whatever private schools the owners decide to have.
But public schools should neither promote, nor denigrate, any particular
religion.

Another ridiculous amendment was the one that started Prohibition. Too
fine grained an issue to be properly the subject of a constitution.

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  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
Please, people, maybe I don't catch this stuff, but paraphrasing and hinting on a subject where some people have no clue, I think you better state, clearly, what you are talking about. Man, it is like trying to dissect what Bill Clinton is lying (...) (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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