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Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:38:59 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, "Simon Robinson" <simon@simonrobinson.com>
writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Todd Lehman writes:
> > Hmmm. Well, this is one place where I kind of get confused. See, I
> > believe that God didn't create logic or mathematics -- that he in fact
> > *couldn't* create them -- because they already existed on their own
> > without the world, without the universe, and without God.
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> Do you have any justification for believing that. Is logic something that
> exists in its own right or is it just something that we've created and
> which looks sensible because it happens to fit in with how our minds work?
The first one: logic exists in its own right. It's not something we
created or invented, but rather something we discovered.
Pure logic (as in, say, DeMorgan's Theorem, for instance) existed long
before humans ever used it, and it works exactly the same in other alien
societies through out the galaxy/universe, and it will still exist long
after all the suns in the universe burn out (if that ever happens).
> I'm sure I've seen one or two references to books in which mathematicians
> have idly speculated on that - though I can' t think of any references
> off hand.
It's certainly not _idle_ speculation.
--Todd
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