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Subject: 
The US gives too much/not enough aid
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:45:35 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:

2) The USA has a dire record in offering development and humanitarian aid to
developing countries [~1.25 dollars per U.S. citizen in '97].

B as in B, S as in S.  The US government gives more in raw dollars than anyone
(hardly "dire"), and that doesn't even count *private* giving...

Giving more in raw dollars and being lower as a percentage of GDP are not
mutually exclusive if the GDPs are different, a fact being conveniently
ignored by your detractors, John.

This also omits private contributions, and the aid in kind for doing things
like saving the world from various evils (at least twice now)... how much is
that worth?

Or more straightforwardly, would the world be a better place if N Korea had
taken over S Korea 50 years ago, or 20, or 10, or 5? If your answer is no,
then the sums expended need to be included. Ditto for all the other places
we've protected from neighboring aggressors.

But the base assertion that the US isn't giving enough is based on the
unstated assumption that the US should be giving anything at all in the
first place. Those claiming the US isn't giving enough would need to justify
that assertion first. And they haven't. They're just letting it go unstated
because if you accept it and argue that we're giving enough, you've already
agreed that we should be giving *some*.

In my view the world isn't *entitled* to any aid whatever, and shouldn't GET
any, beyond what private parties within US feel like giving for their own
reasons.



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(...) I'm not ignoring anything. GDP is the standard way of measuring it - under Agenda 21, the Official Development Assistance (ODA) aid target of 0.7% of GDP was set. Even when measured per head of population, the USA is still hitting below its (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) B as in B, S as in S. The US government gives more in raw dollars than anyone (hardly "dire"), and that doesn't even count *private* giving... -John (22 years ago, 11-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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