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Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
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Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:58:09 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
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> > Why should I have to prove that? It doesn't matter if it is the
> > unsocialistic part that is carrying the socialistic part as long as the
> > country as a whole is working.
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> This I think is the crux so I snipped the rest. If a car has a flat tire,
> but the driver is driving it down the road because the other three tires are
> OK, is the car "working"?
No. A car with a flat is going to eventually crash (not work). Governments
with a "flat" would eventually fail. Better to use a clogged fuel injector
analogy, where the performance is impaired, but leaving the car still working.
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> One could argue that it is. After all, the car is moving in the desired
> direction. I would argue that it is not. At least not working as designed.
> It is suffering a malfunction.
The next fault with this analogy is that I can test the tire's air pressure
to see if it is flat, even if it is visually hard to tell. It's not so easy
to prove with socialism.
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> Socialism *is* that flat tire, and your argument is essentially that because
> a country that has a mixed economy isn't actually starving and in armed
> insurrection it is "working".
You are basically claiming the tire is flat without showing me the air
pressure gauge. On every tire in every country.
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> I disagree and I see no further proof necessary other than to point out that
> the closer one gets to a pure capitalist system the better off on average
> everyone is, and the closer one gets to a pure socialist system the worse
> off on average everyone is. That's pretty generally accepted, I think,
> because we have so much empirical proof all around us.
Forgive me for not remembering, but which extremely socialistic country in
scandanavia has one of the highest standard of living in the world?
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> If you like mixed economies you also may enjoy hitting yourself in the head
> with a hammer, but doing so only on odd dates, sparing yourself on even ones.
I thought it was like a flat tire. I liked that better because I can ask
you to show me the air pressure gauge...
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> I'll pass.
What country are you moving to, then?
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> As to Libertarianism being like a religion, I haven't bothered to deny it
> because I can't see it as anything other than a joke on your part, it has no
> basis in fact.
At least I was being honest with myself, rather than making unsupportable
claims (kinda like a religion). :-)
Bruce
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| (...) This I think is the crux so I snipped the rest. If a car has a flat tire, but the driver is driving it down the road because the other three tires are OK, is the car "working"? One could argue that it is. After all, the car is moving in the (...) (22 years ago, 13-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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