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Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
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Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:45:14 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > The Founding Fathers were deists, not theists. They believed in a
> > Creator, not the xian god.
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> I never suggested otherwise. They acknowledged the existence of God without
> necessarily endorsing a particular brand of religion's understanding of Him.
John! For pity's sake, read what you're writing! The acknowledgement of the
existence of God (or even "a" God) is an explicit endorsement of religion! I
don't care if you want to pretend that "it could be *any* God," because you're
wrong, since Eisenhower and the Congress intended the phrase as an oath of
fealty to The Christian God. But in any case, that's 100% NOT the point. The
State (ie, The Congress) has NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER to make any statement of
acknowledgement of any God or religion or lack of religion. If Congress
passed an act tomorrow that said:
"Every morning John Neal must publicly declare that God does not exist."
you wouldn't say "that's okay, since they're not endorsing any religion, nor are
they explicitly forbidding any religion." Yet that statement is exactly
analogous to requiring an atheist to say "under God." If you think otherwise,
please explain the difference.
You seem desperate to pretend that "God" is a word somehow free of religious
connotation, and that's just nonsense.
Dave!
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| (...) First, there is no "requirement". The state will not force you to speak those words (in fact it *allows* you to *not* speak them). A perfect analogy would be if Congress passed that same law but then included, "But if he feels uncomfortable (...) (22 years ago, 11-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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